What's the general route people take to go from not knowing clojure to having a job working with it?
@freyert: a lot of people I’ve talked to (myself included) just start using at their current job. You kinda pick it up as you’re forced to use it in a project.
@freyert: yes on the sneak it into your current job. I did that. But now I work at a place where we train people on Clojure when they start, so new hires can go from "not knowing clojure" to "having a job working with it" instantaneously.
vcool ghosss
Where is that?
Democracy Works: http://democracy.works/ (not currently hiring :/)
@freyert: I'm the only developer at my company, so I found a couple projects that people wanted where I thought it would be a significant improvement over our current tools. At that point, I built and delivered one of the projects in ClojureScript and used it to convince people of the benefits.
@ghosss: Haha definitely one of the first places I scoped out when I was investigating.
I'm a NodeJS person, but really prefer doing everything with ramda, which makes it just a dirty jump to clojure script.
I just want to get over there.
Well clojure in genral.
The other thing I've been doing is building reports using excel-templates and using the speed of development and ease of use for our business people to get some real buy in.
@shaun-mahood: Is that basically just project start, project end?
@freyert: I learned using clojurescript with figwheel, it is a great avenue for learning
@freyert: Not sure what you're asking, sorry
Those excel sheets
Are they just logging the duration of specific projects?
No, I'm using them to replace our existing Crystal Reports based reports. It's a fantastic library. https://github.com/tomfaulhaber/excel-templates
Can deliver things really quick from SQL data, just sending the raw data to people, then let them manipulate and format. Once they've got what they want, you just have to put their formatting into the excel template file and you've got your fancy report all done.
Just from explaining what we could do with it I was able to get pretty significant buy in
And then they've been impressed with how much faster it has been to develop reports than it used to be.
That's really neat. I wish I would have had something like that a few years ago.