Clojurians Log v2

Is Pallet dead? How do you usually provision on the cloud? Cloudformation, Terraform etc?

We use terraform/packer.

https://github.com/MastodonC/terraboot I want to investigate this

@dominicm Can you say why terraform and not something else?

Because it's declarative. Which means that the file represents your target infrastructure. Not a history of changes susceptible to breaking if someone alters aws

The JSON format is good for generating to

Isn't cloudformation declerative as well? Maybe I don't know enough about them yet.

I hear cloudformation is really crap.

I concur, we have everything in cloud formation, and I would never choose that again

it's inconsistent, feedback cycles are really long, and we've had three occasions where cloudformation failed while rolling back, causing the entire stack to be in a corrupted state

on top of that, you're basically locking yourself into AWS

also, they managed to invent some pseudo-programming language on top of JSON

It wants to be declarative

But without all the bits that make declarative useful

Kubernetes seems to be a more expressive take on that kind of concept - allocation, clustering, and scaling, etc.

I wouldn't compare it to Kubernetes

ECS is AWS' version of Kubernetes

It's not directly comparable, no. But when considering how to declaratively allocate resources, Kubernetes' type of model - objects that ensure specific constraints hold - might be superior to simply giving a specific state and not bothering with how transitions occur.