Clojurians Log v2

https://github.com/cark/clojure-cli-portable

now with added cross compilation from linux to windows

it's also possible to generate a proper windows installer from linux, with nsis, not quite sure i'll be able to compile it there, but worth a shot

@carkh, I ask out of ignorance: do developers expect a gui installers these days? Is this a windows developer specific expectation?

well it depends on the dev i guess

it's idiomatic on windows i'd say

although i have many years of professional work under my belt, i was surprised with the ps installer, and having to work around execution policy etc

so i guess for a new dev it's even worst

though i had little experience with powershell i must admit

when I dipped my toe back into windows, I was happy to see and use scoop and friends - but that’s me bringing my macos and linux biases and habits back to windows.

i like chocolatey

but that's a very different proposition than our current installer

yep

no hassle, no thinking, type and go

probably due to my lack of knowledge of powershell, i was quite bewildered by those offered install paths

what to chose, will i mess it up ?

i don't have to do this for python

same ignorance and response for me, I relied on guidance in wiki

well it was an occasion for learning =) always fine by me =)

So i'm making another installer, which may be cross-compiling too... and it calls into powershell for some scripting ...That's a total mess, i have to first edit the registry, then call the script, then restore the registry

i don't know what they were thinking at microsoft

sounds like maintenance costs might be high for that one.

great that you are digging in and exploring @carkh!

not really, i had an installer based program i maintained for years and had to maybe edit the installer twice or thrice

the parameters are harder here, gotta make it cross-compilable, not introduce more compiled binaries etc

lotsa interesting data for @alexmiller to digest!

=)

it would be so easy to reach for a little dll and just do that stuff myself instead of relying on powershell

i already wasn't too keen on it, but now i'm starting to hate it with a passion =)

@carkh: Installing clojure on Windows was quite the task for me. (As was installing Java) Some of it due to my inexperience with Windows and Powershell. But I can totally see why you want to help make it easier.

@alexmiller: When you look at this, please have us poor tool smiths in mind. 😃 I have just spent countless of hours (I don't want to count them) getting Calva to be able to Jack in to clojure-cli, Leiningen and shadow-cljs across both Mac/Linux and Windows. I think I have something that works now, but it will depend on that that clojure command is installed in Powershell and can be invoked with the escaping suggested on the docs page for how to install clojure on Windows. If this changes, I'd love me a heads up so that I can make Calva support both the current and whatever new CLI api.

certainly. I spent months asking for direction on this but never getting any feedback, glad to be seeing some now.

not at the top of my list at the moment unfortunately, but hope to cycle through

If there are any Calva users in here, you can help me test that clojure-cli jack-in works in this test build. (It's a quite big change under the hood, so I'd love help with testing Leiningen and shadow-cljs projects as well.) To put it to a test: install the VSIX file in VS Code from the meatballs menu (`...`) in the Extensions pane.

see that's the trouble with those incompatibilities, some are adapting to powershell, some are not

and it's a lot of work, for more people

thanks for the feedback @pez