I don't work with Clojure (yet) and I wish I do, but I'm personally trying to learn product management skills for the sake of establishing a couple of startups in the foreseeable future (I have some ideas which I think have potential)
Last job was a software house targeting startups, so I got pretty gritty with a couple of them. Honestly I'm not looking to get back in the product seat
Mainly because trying to figure out what people actually want is impossible without infinite patience and pandering
Right, yea, some people are definitely better than others
I prefer being product focused but internal, where I can get direct to the problem
> They have far more patience than I do Lol
> but stepping back makes it easier to figure out a workaround/solution without implementing everything the customer says they want > Because from experience, what they say they want is probably not what they actually need Well, how do you figure this out without talking "deeply" with customers about the problems they want solved?
Not quite what I'm meaning. More that if you're talking to the customers it's easy to get wrapped up emotionally in what they're after. Having someone there who can logically smooth that out afterwards works wonders
Or at least, gives a better view on what they need to go back and ask the customer about further to dig deeper
We've had a few incidents of getting emotionally mixed and developing things we really didn't need to, when something simpler/completely different was actually what was needed
And only really finding out later when the customer asking for it still wasn't happy
So... you still have someone having proper conversations with clients, but having the extra impassionate layer to question has done wonders
Oh right. Well, someone has to do the "emotion-filtering" process then, right?
(basically what I'm doing now)
Also good morning 👋
Morning all.
IndieHackers -style ? 😉
Good morning, and thanks for your thoughts, it's very useful 🙂
Morning folks. 👋