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flyboarder 2016-08-30T18:50:10.000010Z

Repost: looking for devs in the Edmonton, Alberta area who may be interested in a meetup.

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richiardiandrea 2016-08-30T18:55:24.000011Z

@flyboarder: off topic, but if you pass by Vancouver, stop at our weekly hacknight ok? :)

2016-08-30T19:22:30.000013Z

hey guys … does anyone know of any canadian pure player Clojure shop please ? I already know kirasystems and circle CI but I’d really be interested in knowing more … 🙂 thanks in advance

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:23:22.000014Z

@richiardiandrea will do!

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:27:09.000015Z

@kaffein could you elaborate on >canadian pure player Clojure shop

2016-08-30T19:28:25.000017Z

I mean doing exclusively Clojure development ^^ @flyboarder

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:28:52.000018Z

We are at about 95% right now

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:29:10.000019Z

http://degree9.io

2016-08-30T19:30:00.000021Z

😄 nice nice thanks you so much for the info

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:30:32.000022Z

(with that said, much of it is clj/cljs the last 5% is powershell)

2016-08-30T19:30:38.000023Z

@flyboarder do you guys have difficulty in recruiting clojure developers ?

2016-08-30T19:31:49.000024Z

haha if powershell is only 5% that’s okay … the opposite would have been a little bit problematic ^^

2016-08-30T19:31:59.000025Z

i’m joking of course

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:32:05.000026Z

locally yes, remotely no, this is why we are starting regular meetups, trying to build this community

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:32:07.000027Z

lol^

2016-08-30T19:32:35.000028Z

oh so you have a majority of remote workers then … okay I got it

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:35:16.000029Z

The problem with remote workers isnt finding amazing people, it’s finding ones who are capable of working on our vision with less oversight, that is difficult in a startup and being able to pivot as often as we do

2016-08-30T19:36:21.000030Z

yeah for a startup I guess you are right : the culture is really something you have to live within …

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:36:59.000031Z

right and that makes it very difficult for us to find developers with the skill set and the passion

2016-08-30T19:37:36.000032Z

I definitely understand what you mean

2016-08-30T19:38:25.000033Z

I am based in Paris and let me tell you that the problem we are facing is even bigger : we can’t make clojure take off

2016-08-30T19:38:36.000034Z

and it’s also a very cultural problem

2016-08-30T19:40:30.000035Z

I think that’s because I.T is lead by non-I.T people and those people are only concerned about how to recruit developers to perpetuate the investment made in the product/service

2016-08-30T19:41:25.000036Z

so Clojure is considered as too “exotic” and they do prefer to invest in having Plain Old Java Devs 😄 instead of venturing into the unknown

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:41:48.000037Z

yes breaking IT culture is something that needs to be pushed more, too political makes for a bad system

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:42:55.000038Z

we focus in cloud automation, and that is a common issue we encounter with larger clients is changing how they run their IT politically, you need a matching business model to your IT model

flyboarder 2016-08-30T19:44:16.000039Z

less of a monolithic system we build and maintain until the next generation makes us obsolete, more an explorative expanding solution

2016-08-30T19:44:59.000040Z

+100

2016-08-30T19:46:26.000041Z

our I.T culture is definitely not sustainable :’( …

snoe 2016-08-30T20:33:38.000043Z

@flyboarder my experience working for a couple remote startups follows this distinction pretty well

flyboarder 2016-08-30T20:36:46.000045Z

Yeah iv seen that before

flyboarder 2016-08-30T20:36:57.000046Z

I'd have to agree

richiardiandrea 2016-08-30T20:47:30.000047Z

I have seen that too, very nice article

richiardiandrea 2016-08-30T20:47:52.000048Z

Working remotely too for a startup outside Canada btw

richiardiandrea 2016-08-30T20:48:09.000049Z

Here in the Vancouver area not many Clojure adopters

2016-08-30T20:52:44.000050Z

Very interesting article thanks