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2020-09-28T05:58:47.059500Z

Morning

agigao 2020-09-28T06:56:53.059700Z

დილა მშვიდობის

agigao 2020-09-28T06:58:55.061Z

It has been a while since the last time I worked from a coffee shop. After descending from the mountains it feels rather strange

borkdude 2020-09-28T07:22:53.061200Z

Morning

thomas 2020-09-28T07:23:07.061400Z

morning

slipset 2020-09-28T07:38:23.061600Z

Morgen!

2020-09-28T07:50:40.061800Z

God morgen!

2020-09-28T08:01:48.062Z

Morning

plexus 2020-09-28T08:24:30.062800Z

Good morning! after a few cold and dreadful days the sun has decided to grace Berlin with its presence once more. 🐻 ☀️

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2020-09-28T08:41:20.065Z

I just now realized that ‘Ber’ part of Berlin kinda sounds like a bear. And now seeing bears everywhere in Berlin suddenly make sense to me 😂😂😂

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raymcdermott 2020-09-28T09:01:22.065600Z

wet morning

javahippie 2020-09-28T09:02:21.066300Z

Sunny morning! ☺️

raymcdermott 2020-09-28T09:03:14.066900Z

#jealous

slipset 2020-09-28T09:16:33.069Z

I looked through some of the Clojure North presentations from this summer. I'm struck by how much more apparent delivery skills are when the conf is online. Some speakers manage to talk to the virtual audience, some speakers are just talking to themselves.

slipset 2020-09-28T09:16:42.069200Z

This is just an observation.

jasonbell 2020-09-28T09:22:38.069400Z

Morning

agigao 2020-09-28T09:50:19.073300Z

Lazy morning 🐼

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practicalli-john 2020-09-28T09:51:13.074800Z

@slipset It took me a long time to get used to presenting virtually, but after about 100 hours of doing so (commercially and on Practicalli) I eventually got as accustomed to it as presenting to an audience in person. It’s especially difficult when you can’t see the other people you are speaking too.

slipset 2020-09-28T09:54:55.075600Z

Yeah, I guess what I'm getting at (very much for my self, actually) is that presenting from a stage and presenting virtually are two very different skills.

slipset 2020-09-28T09:56:28.076900Z

Also, it would be interesting to see how virtual presentations will evolve. Now we seem to be mimicking what we do IRL, but there might be other ways of conveying the information that is more suited for the virtual conference.

slipset 2020-09-28T09:56:52.077400Z

And, who says that a virtual conference thing has to be live? Maybe it could be a recorded screencast?

slipset 2020-09-28T09:57:37.077800Z

In other words, what's the "liveness" of a virtual conf-talk actually bringing to the table?

borkdude 2020-09-28T10:36:23.078300Z

> It’s especially difficult when you can’t see the other people you are speaking too. That's also been my experience, I've done this two times now during the past 6 months. I much prefer presenting IRL.

borkdude 2020-09-28T10:37:20.078900Z

WSLConf used this https://hopin.to/ for their conf. It was quite nice: they even had a room where you could socialize and randomly meet someone "face to face"

plexus 2020-09-28T10:39:45.081400Z

> In other words, what's the "liveness" of a virtual conf-talk actually bringing to the table? IMO nothing, pre-recorded allows for higher quality, gives attendees flexibility in when they watch it. Keep live for interactive sessions: q&a, group discussion, etc

borkdude 2020-09-28T10:41:58.082700Z

I do think liveness adds something: at least you feel like you're doing it for the people watching right now and not some hypothetic future. Also sometimes you can get questions during the talk (although that's more for meetups maybe) and having a QA right after doesn't require people to do their homework of watching the talk at a different time

borkdude 2020-09-28T10:42:32.083100Z

There's something to say for both approaches

slipset 2020-09-28T11:13:26.083800Z

There is I guess two aspects to liveness though. It’s a bit like the difference between a deploy and a release.

slipset 2020-09-28T11:14:41.085100Z

There is nothing which stops us from doing a rehearsed recording of a presentation (a deploy), and only releasing it on the conference (and being present at the release to take questions and such while recording is being shown)

RAMart 2020-09-28T12:01:42.086500Z

@plexus @borkdude @slipset Thanks for your valuable input an insight!

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ordnungswidrig 2020-09-28T12:52:34.087200Z

Lol, I just googled and learned it’s derived from slawik term berlo which means muddy. etc. Fun fact, my Home town’s name “Ulm” is derived from “Hulma” which also means muddy, swampy.