clojure-europe

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dharrigan 2020-11-27T06:44:42.079600Z

Good Morning!

jasonbell 2020-11-27T07:24:41.079800Z

Morning

plexus 2020-11-27T07:25:00.080Z

Guten Morgen!

plexus 2020-11-27T07:26:00.080600Z

So what are folks doing to make it sanely through the pandemic winter?

jasonbell 2020-11-27T07:26:36.080900Z

Staying indoors and working…..

plexus 2020-11-27T07:28:43.082200Z

Besides that 🙂 I've taken to doing a long walk every day around noon, 1~2 hours, and I have to say I'm feeling better about things than I usually do this time of year. (I really can't stand winter)

plexus 2020-11-27T07:29:13.082600Z

High dosage vitamin D and a SAD lamp above my desk probably also help

jasonbell 2020-11-27T07:46:24.083800Z

I have a SAD light and a supply of Vitamin D too, it has helped. Working times as they are I’m just at that point where it’s dark when I get up and dark when I finish work. Good news is I seem to be handling it better this year.

plexus 2020-11-27T07:56:48.085700Z

I start pretty early, and sometimes won't finish particularly early, but spending that time out while it's light out makes it pretty ok. I remember in past years whenever it got dark I would feel like crap, like "yup another day is gone, and I hardly noticed, I've just been sitting at my desk all day". And now it's like "ok, I saw the sun come up, and now it's going down, another day well spent".

dominicm 2020-11-27T08:08:09.086700Z

I found midday walks surprisingly ineffective for me. I've started a morning run, that's been helping clear my head.

simongray 2020-11-27T08:08:22.087300Z

good morning

simongray 2020-11-27T08:11:01.088100Z

@plexus I try to take a daily walk in the cemetery park located across the street, since I rarely take my bike anywhere these days.

simongray 2020-11-27T08:12:22.089500Z

I don’t think I’ve taken as many walks in the rest of my life as I have done in 2020.

plexus 2020-11-27T08:13:32.090400Z

Nice! I always walk to a small park on the edge of town. It has a couple ponds with ducks and swans, lots of trees. Having that bit of nature every day even if it's not much does help.

simongray 2020-11-27T08:14:11.091100Z

Yeah, I think light as a source of vitamin D is one thing, but nature itself is also especially important for mental wellbeing.

simongray 2020-11-27T08:16:42.093500Z

I read somewhere it has to do with the recursive nature (lol no pun intended) of it all and how we neurologically interpret sights like that, something a programmer might appreciate.

slipset 2020-11-27T08:20:45.098Z

I’ve been a bit worried about this period ahead of us. Up here in Norway, it’s getting dark fast, and basically my daily routine is waking up in the dark, going down to my office in the basement in the dark, returning “home”, up in the appartement in the dark with no real reason to go outside during daytime. One great thing is that my boss (VP of Eng) now has actively gone out and encouraged us to do a switcheroo on our working days as far as possible in order to go out side for a couple of hours when the sun is out and rather work those hours when it’s dark, so basically partition the workday into two or even three. Personally, I have a hard time doing that, but I have begun starting my day with 30 minutes on my bike on the ballance-rollers down here in the basement. It doesn’t bring sunshine in the literal sense, but it does give me 30 mins of exercise which I wouldn’t have gotten otherwise. My unsolicited advice: do as @plexus!

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T08:22:45.099300Z

good morining!

simongray 2020-11-27T08:24:35.101Z

@slipset If you want any sunlight in Copenhagen you have to seize it at the moment it’s available. So if I see the sun and I have no immediate obligations, I try to get out before it’s set or disappeared behind a cloud again. I can imagine it must be even more difficult in Norway in wintertime.

simongray 2020-11-27T08:25:30.101200Z

Now speaking of…

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T08:28:13.101700Z

Everything is gray here. The big winter diffusor was installed. #livingnextotariver

slipset 2020-11-27T08:30:22.103900Z

@simongray It’s not much difference between Copenhagen and Oslo (where I live), but further north, deffo more difficult. I think that employers (and the callers of meetings) could do quite a bit to improve stuff to ensure that employees don’t have immediate obligations (or meetings as we like to call them) mid-day when the sun is out.

slipset 2020-11-27T08:31:31.104900Z

In these days of social-restraint, as it’s called in Norway, the hours from after dinner to bedtime are basically free for me to work.

synthomat 2020-11-27T09:08:11.107600Z

morning!

2020-11-27T09:09:16.107800Z

morning

pez 2020-11-27T09:11:00.108700Z

I should look into SAD lamps as well. I’m not made for Swedish winter.

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2020-11-27T09:12:06.109100Z

@borkdude congrats on the babashka release. The nextjournal stuff sounds interesting

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ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T09:26:08.109300Z

I couldn’t help myself and evaluate (range).

simongray 2020-11-27T09:37:10.109900Z

Man, nextjournal is looking pretty sweet these days.

plexus 2020-11-27T09:39:40.110100Z

😊

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T09:40:07.110300Z

Can we have nice graphs with babashka and nextjournal

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T09:40:49.110500Z

(I’m doing some covid-19 stats for tech.ml.dataset etc right now and I thought about using org-babel. Nextjournal looks nicer though

plexus 2020-11-27T09:41:34.110700Z

https://nextjournal.com/schmudde/vega-in-clojure

plexus 2020-11-27T09:42:17.110900Z

many ways to do this, especially now with the custom viewer, but vega support has been built in for quite some time

plexus 2020-11-27T09:43:20.111100Z

from a clojure runtime you just return data with the right metadata. This should work with the babashka prepl too (haven't tested, lmk if it doesn't). From other runtimes you simply spit out the necessary json https://nextjournal.com/blog/plotting-with-vega-lite-in-nextjournal

borkdude 2020-11-27T09:46:21.111300Z

I think @mkvlr posted an example of this, maybe he could repeat it here

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T09:53:23.111800Z

aaah, I’m using vega lite already. nice

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T10:14:18.112Z

Not babashka, but nevertheless https://nextjournal.com/a/NG9EF1kUEKG852roNKmVs

plexus 2020-11-27T10:17:59.112200Z

nice!

orestis 2020-11-27T10:21:38.113200Z

I don’t have a SAD lamp here in Copenhagen, but I’ve bought a bunch of IKEA Trådfri bulbs with variable white spectrum, and having 5 of those on cold white light in the morning helps a ton.

orestis 2020-11-27T10:22:27.114200Z

I do take my daughter back and forth to the nursery on the bike, so I combine getting some fresh air with exercise, which is surprisingly nice (I’m Greek and can’t stand the cold and wet)

plexus 2020-11-27T10:25:18.114600Z

no json version: https://nextjournal.com/a/NG9ZJj2E68E7Ho57qyS9v?token=FewTuGSXqMPEAV5adXewQc

plexus 2020-11-27T10:25:37.114800Z

#everythingisaremix

mkvlr 2020-11-27T10:26:43.115Z

you can use the cm6=1 url param to opt into our soon to be released clojure editor with paredit support, see https://nextjournal.github.io/codemirror.next-clojure/ for the key bindings

thomas 2020-11-27T10:40:38.115300Z

morning

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T11:01:56.115400Z

Is there a documentation about all the viewers?

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T11:04:45.115600Z

I tried to get hiccup output running but I failed.

mkvlr 2020-11-27T11:14:54.116800Z

not yet and hiccup is currently broken 🙈

mkvlr 2020-11-27T11:15:06.117Z

hope to fix this next week

mkvlr 2020-11-27T11:15:27.117200Z

and release the viewers as a open source library with docs soon

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T11:18:27.117400Z

that would be nice. I’ll stay tuned

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raymcdermott 2020-11-27T11:46:34.118Z

morning

raymcdermott 2020-11-27T11:49:27.120400Z

@plexus having a dog has given me the motivation for daily walks and yes feels so much better to be out. Like @slipset mentioned, switching hours is good. I start at 1400 these days and spend the morning cooking or other activities with my wife. Don't think I'll change in the spring tbh.

plexus 2020-11-27T12:30:14.121600Z

plexus 2020-11-27T12:31:27.123300Z

I pass this tree every day. It's been able slow to shed its leaves and has beautiful fall colors. Anyone know what type of tree this is?

dharrigan 2020-11-27T12:41:46.123500Z

Looks like a maple tree

dharrigan 2020-11-27T12:42:44.124400Z

I know this is UK specific, but European trees can be found all over the place...perhaps this may help: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/british-tree-identification/id1112564089 there is also the equivalent for Android from the Woodland Trust.

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borkdude 2020-11-27T12:49:11.125300Z

@plexus I think this is a "plataan" (in Dutch): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platanus We have one next to our apartment building.

dharrigan 2020-11-27T12:52:16.125800Z

yeah, hard to identify completely. need more pictures, and possibly pictures of any "fruit" on the ground

borkdude 2020-11-27T12:57:13.126200Z

I'm pretty sure about platanus though, it's a common tree here in Europe

borkdude 2020-11-27T12:57:26.126500Z

And the leaves look familiar to me

borkdude 2020-11-27T12:58:56.126900Z

You can also recognize it by these corona-like fruits

plexus 2020-11-27T13:00:50.127300Z

Corona 😱😉

plexus 2020-11-27T13:01:35.128400Z

I'll get better pictures tomorrow. Plataan has very recognizable bark, right?

borkdude 2020-11-27T13:04:59.128600Z

yes

mpenet 2020-11-27T13:17:52.129300Z

platane surely, maple has very different fruits

mpenet 2020-11-27T13:18:19.129800Z

other one that has these kind of fruits is "marronnier" but the leaves look very different (more rounded)

2020-11-27T13:58:51.130600Z

Plane/plataan trees are the devil tho. They really mess up my sinuses when the fruit start to break up

mpenet 2020-11-27T14:28:49.132900Z

I hate maple, super dense pack of leaves that require picking them up in fall, quite ugly tree too imho. But! Cool for woodworking. In short I like maple dead

borkdude 2020-11-27T14:30:12.133100Z

I like maple syrup though

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2020-11-27T15:24:40.134Z

and maple leaves are soo soooooo pretty when they go red and gold

plexus 2020-11-27T15:36:54.135400Z

That does look a lot like it, and the fruit seems to match too. I never noticed the bark being like a platane bark but I'm going to have a better look next time.

thomas 2020-11-27T15:45:57.136500Z

then it is a plane tree

borkdude 2020-11-27T15:54:14.137100Z

That does depend on the time or the weather of year though. Ours has a pretty regular bark right now, maybe because it just rained and it's wet.

2020-11-27T15:58:32.137600Z

I've never seen the plane trees in London go red. They always go a dull gold/brown

mpenet 2020-11-27T16:23:20.138Z

our maples are not so nice

mpenet 2020-11-27T16:23:28.138200Z

it gets orange then brown

mpenet 2020-11-27T16:23:45.138500Z

or but you wrote platanes, nevermind

orestis 2020-11-27T17:41:57.139200Z

I have fond memories of Japanese maple trees in October. Very beautiful.

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pez 2020-11-27T18:06:25.141Z

Our garden is full of those. Acer this, Acer that. I don't seem to be able to let a year paas without planting a new one. 😀

ordnungswidrig 2020-11-27T21:00:05.142Z

My neighbor has a japanese maple tree, it’s been an awesome view over the last weeks.