Clojurians Log v2

Given how shitty the disease is, I wonder why anyone is reluctant

Apparently lots of Asians in England have been told that the vaccine contains meat, putting off Muslims (who've been told pork) and Hindus (who've been told beef).

I'm not sure what other reasons there are, beyond those who are worried that there hasn't been enough testing

That’s horrible. Although I can understand that people a reluctant as never ever has a vaccine been developed this fast. In germany I can imaginge that the TV series “Charité” had an impact here, telling the story about Robert Koch and the failed attempt to create a TBC vaccine.

Also for adults, vaccinations is a topic “long ago from the childhood”. And most deseases we vaccinate against play (thankfully) no practical role anymore (Measels being a sad exception in parts of germany)

My dad had polio as a child - vaccines for that apparently started in the 1950s

My sisters and I had chicken pocks and one of my sisters even had measles. I rember her being “quarantined” in the living room but only for a couple of days and quite loosely.

But anybody younger than 40 in germany maybe has no personal experience with these “harmless” deseases. It’s similar to how the horror of WW2 slowly fade away when people die that can tell you about it first handed.

I just found this: https://www.euronews.com/2021/01/18/why-do-so-few-people-in-france-want-to-take-the-covid-19-vaccine

> It’s an event that led to “the public feeling that the government was in bed with big business,” Larson said who previously told Euronews that reliance on big business was a weak point in the vaccine “trust chain”. > @djm_uk I guess a valid point for many countries.

Except maybe for the UK where the people would consider the government be too incompetent to make a deal with big pharma in the first place 🙈

Something similar was on /r/europe and the top reply in the comments noted that that survey had been criticised for using a poorly worded question (https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/kxttq0/of_people_per_country_willing_to_take_a_vaccine/gjcn9ma/). There was a second survey where the results were much more strongly in favour of getting the vaccine. In this second survey Denmark comes out on top with 87% willing to get the vaccine, which is pretty great news to me.

The "definitely" in the question was strange, but at least they could strongly agree/agree

You can imagine that anyone of reasonable health who is not a complete egotist would let frontline workers and 80+ year olds get the vaccine first.

> who is not a complete egotist

Welcome to the internet 😛

But really, survey question design is something that is taught to any bachelor student taking a class on research methods (mandatory in Danish universities and most other places, I imagine). It is incredible to me that important surveys like this are often so littered with leading questions or other artefacts that result in misleading results.

In Sweden people seem to have forgotten the recent disaster with mass vaccination against swine flu.

@pez - Sweden (i.e. the aggregate opinions of the population) is noticeably more skeptic towards the COVID19 vaccines than other Nordic countries

Not sceptical enough, I would say.

Definitely not going to enter that discussion.

I agree. 😃

correct, sorry, I thought you were mutating stuff

@matlux I agree with you, I assumed it as you described. The strange thing macroexpanding it gives an error. So I was wondering if it is a bad idea. Do you have an idea whats wrong expanding it?

(clojure.walk/macroexpand-all
   '(let [x 5]
      (clojure.core.async/go
        (println x))))

;; => Syntax error macroexpanding clojure.core.async/go at (your_project.cljc:93:3).
;;    Could not resolve var: x

Strange indeed that it doesn’t macroexpand-all correctly. It does compile and execute though:

(let [x 5]
    (clojure.core.async/go
      (println x)))
=>
#object[clojure.core.async.impl.channels.ManyToManyChannel
        0x67080483
        "clojure.core.async.impl.channels.ManyToManyChannel@67080483"]
5

I have managed to macroexpand-all it by cheating the compiler:

(clojure.walk/macroexpand-all '(let [x 5]
                                 (clojure.core.async/go
                                   (println "x"))))