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dharrigan 2021-06-17T05:43:58.021400Z

Yello!

RAMart 2021-06-17T05:45:27.021700Z

Oh Yeah! 🎶

kardan 2021-06-17T05:55:44.021900Z

Good morning

2021-06-17T06:00:53.022100Z

Morning

ordnungswidrig 2021-06-17T06:23:05.022300Z

Hello, friends.

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pez 2021-06-17T06:32:04.023Z

Greetings, European Clojurians!

jkxyz 2021-06-17T06:35:20.023200Z

Morning!

simongray 2021-06-17T07:06:07.023400Z

morning

2021-06-17T07:06:46.023900Z

Happy sunny day 🙂 ☀️

Jakob Durstberger 2021-06-17T07:14:31.024100Z

Morning

mccraigmccraig 2021-06-17T07:17:19.024300Z

maaning

2021-06-17T07:47:08.024700Z

Mawning!

2021-06-17T07:50:35.027100Z

Just want to say again that this channel makes me consistently happy as we support each other through troubles and celebrate each others victories. I know it is a bit earnest, but I think it is worth recognising what is valuable and good in a community

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slipset 2021-06-17T07:58:35.027400Z

Morning!

thomas 2021-06-17T08:00:42.028200Z

morning

thomas 2021-06-17T08:00:50.028300Z

I second that

thomas 2021-06-17T08:01:00.028500Z

love you guys!

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simongray 2021-06-17T08:03:49.029200Z

🥲

pez 2021-06-17T08:04:53.029400Z

It should totally be celebrated. I’ve gotten so much help and support from you people in this channel. Loving it. Loving you! ❤️

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orestis 2021-06-17T08:08:12.030Z

Morning!

mdallastella 2021-06-17T09:26:45.030500Z

Buongiorno!

borkdude 2021-06-17T09:29:56.030800Z

morning! 🥵

reefersleep 2021-06-17T09:40:12.031200Z

🎉🙌:hugging_face:

javahippie 2021-06-17T10:47:49.031900Z

Morning!

jasonbell 2021-06-17T10:57:45.032100Z

Oh, I have to agree with :bruce: don’t I! 😬 It’s like the Trolley Problem but worse.

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jasonbell 2021-06-17T10:58:12.032400Z

Morning

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T11:07:02.032800Z

morning

thomas 2021-06-17T11:08:44.033Z

we love even love you @jasonbell 😉

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ordnungswidrig 2021-06-17T12:22:04.033700Z

In times (for me long times) of remote work this channel is a weird cross over of friends and (former) coworkers. so many awesome people :hugging_face:

2021-06-17T12:44:57.033900Z

even I ❤️ @jasonbell just don't tell him or the jokes won't work any more

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dominicm 2021-06-17T13:19:03.034400Z

Morning

practicalli-john 2021-06-17T13:47:40.036300Z

I've posted a message in #news-and-articles about the London Clojurians Open Collective if you know any companies or individuals interested in financially supporting the community, especially as our online meetups are reaching ever growing and international live audiences. Thank you.

reefersleep 2021-06-17T14:09:30.036700Z

Good morning!

reefersleep 2021-06-17T14:10:47.037500Z

I’m celebrating my son taking a poop in the potty for the first time 🥳

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dharrigan 2021-06-17T14:11:55.037800Z

Your parenting duties are practically complete.

dharrigan 2021-06-17T14:11:58.038Z

Well done.

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:12:17.038600Z

my sister-in-law's son also tells everyone which letter he pooped

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:12:38.039Z

but he can't read yet, so he's probably just making stuff up

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raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:13:06.039600Z

can he count? pee is 1 poop is 2

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:13:17.039900Z

tss, please start from 0

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borkdude 2021-06-17T14:13:48.040500Z

we're not mathematicians here

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:13:54.040700Z

effluence a function that indexes from 1

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:14:26.041200Z

it's in the human.digest ns

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:14:33.041400Z

(this was always the argument on my university between CS and math students)

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:14:45.041800Z

[ damn ]

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:14:45.041900Z

*out* ...

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:15:06.042100Z

(binding [*out* potty] ...)

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:15:31.042700Z

can *out* be bound to two channels?

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:15:47.043Z

why?

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:16:16.043800Z

a dynamic var can only be bound to one thing per thread, just create another thread...

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:16:48.044500Z

if you bind potty to just one output channel it's a bug

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:17:23.045100Z

it's quite accurate, only one person can "print" into the potty at a time

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:17:58.045600Z

yeah but they can do so from two printers 🙂

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:18:42.046Z

(defrecord Potty [out0 out1])

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:18:48.046200Z

solved

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:19:20.046700Z

I really want to see the linter for that 🙂

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:20:19.047400Z

human.core:14:30: unused potty

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:21:32.049Z

human.core:14:50: invalid arity in call to ->Potty

thomas 2021-06-17T14:22:38.050100Z

where was that @borkdude?

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:22:49.050300Z

University of Twente

thomas 2021-06-17T14:22:59.050600Z

👍

lread 2021-06-17T14:23:06.050900Z

remember to flush out!

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thomas 2021-06-17T14:23:19.051100Z

must be after my time...

thomas 2021-06-17T14:23:43.051400Z

or actually thinking about it... I didn't know that many CS people there.

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:23:51.051700Z

I still feel like the args should be pos-int? not nat-int? 😉

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:23:56.051800Z

what did you study there?

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:24:08.052200Z

streams and logs .... make your own jokes now

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:24:16.052400Z

flush on new ... line

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:24:55.052600Z

cljs.user=> *flush-on-newline*
true

thomas 2021-06-17T14:25:00.052800Z

I did electrical engineering at the Hogeschool.. but lived on campus for a while

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:25:39.053600Z

cool

thomas 2021-06-17T14:26:09.054300Z

but that was a long time ago....

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:26:32.054900Z

well, it wasn't yesterday for me either,

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:26:34.055100Z

IMHO flush should be used as the close function and then the potty can bindings can be done using open-with

thomas 2021-06-17T14:26:36.055200Z

🙂

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:26:42.055400Z

although it doesn't feel that long ago still

thomas 2021-06-17T14:27:10.055600Z

last century for me (almost)

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:27:46.056Z

I started there in 99

thomas 2021-06-17T14:28:01.056200Z

haven't been in Enschede since 2006 I think.

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:28:24.056400Z

I still come there every few years, but not that often

thomas 2021-06-17T14:28:40.056600Z

I started in 94 and finished aug 2000. so last few months didn't really count as I was in the UK at that time.

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:29:19.057300Z

[ yes I have had two kids so can speak as a domain expert ... don't flush during the operation ]

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:29:54.058100Z

should we use locking then?

lread 2021-06-17T14:30:27.059300Z

what about dirty eviction?

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:31:44.060400Z

locking

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:32:23.061400Z

dirty evictions are the norm

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:32:31.061600Z

maybe we can also call System/gc just to make sure no "garbage" is left after flushing

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raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:33:35.062300Z

not x-platform but yeah

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:33:48.062600Z

CLJS is only for front-end

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raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:33:54.062800Z

oh yeah!

borkdude 2021-06-17T14:35:39.063500Z

I mean, who wants to be called back on the toilet?

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T14:37:13.064200Z

yeah, this is a much better and more realistic version of callback hell than you usually get on conference talks

orestis 2021-06-17T15:06:36.064400Z

Wow that’s early!

2021-06-17T16:02:09.065500Z

and I was saying such nice things about this community earlier today. Now it has all gone to 💩

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2021-06-17T16:02:11.065700Z

😉

2021-06-17T16:09:46.066300Z

@reefersleep congrats on the achievement 🙂

reefersleep 2021-06-17T16:13:14.066400Z

He’s been going on the toilet, with me holding him above it, since 2 months or so. He’s just gotten too strong, long and lively for that to be feasible anymore 😄

reefersleep 2021-06-17T16:14:03.066600Z

Started doing it after learning about Elimination Communication (EC). He hated having a wet diaper, so it really improved his general mood.

reefersleep 2021-06-17T16:57:58.067100Z

Thanks!

reefersleep 2021-06-17T16:59:49.067300Z

Weeeellll I’d like for him to be able to sign me when he wants to go potty, and to be able to sit on the potty by himself. I’d say we’ve got a ways to go yet 🙂 Also, crawling, walking, talking and all that. Presently, he can push himself backwards on the floor and rotate aimlessly, and shout drunkenly and blow raspberries and stuff like that

raymcdermott 2021-06-17T17:04:46.067800Z

🙂 kids do that to ya

orestis 2021-06-17T17:12:23.069300Z

We tried EC in the early days and had moderate success but we couldn’t keep it up. So we gave up and we’ll start over.

orestis 2021-06-17T17:14:21.071Z

At 18 months she knows the concept of poop and potty and sometimes she will ask for it and sit and try but it looks like it’s still a game

dharrigan 2021-06-17T18:09:04.071200Z

Yup, sounds like your duties are complete. Job done 🙂

reefersleep 2021-06-17T19:53:22.071400Z

It’s not a full success here. Every time I change him, with or without helping him pee/defecate, there’s a risk that he’ll cry and/or scream. He’s never liked being changed. It’s disheartening.

reefersleep 2021-06-17T19:59:35.071600Z

And there are many times where I can’t interpret his need to pee in time, mostly when he’s laying with his toys having fun. That’s no catastrophe, but it feels a bit silly after literally thousands of diaper changes. But, I just take off the wet diaper, offer him to pee (and he usually needs to), then put on a new one. I still have hopes that he’ll learn to sign when he needs the potty so that it becomes more straightforward, and I’m also hoping that he’ll be diaper free at an early age. But we’ll see 🙂

reefersleep 2021-06-17T20:02:53.071800Z

Even if it’s not regular, it’s great that your girl sometimes can recognise and express her need. Fingers crossed that it’ll become more steady! 🤞 🤞

reefersleep 2021-06-17T20:07:36.072Z

Easier than I thought!