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greenonion 2016-10-07T10:56:41.000212Z

stathissideris πως πηγε το XT;

stathissideris 2016-10-07T10:57:08.000213Z

@greenonion htan poly wraia! eixe kai toksovolia kai axe-throwing

apod 2016-10-07T10:57:19.000214Z

ela gamise 🙂

greenonion 2016-10-07T10:57:20.000215Z

χαχαχα ελα πλακα κανεις

stathissideris 2016-10-07T10:57:25.000216Z

oxi!

greenonion 2016-10-07T10:57:30.000217Z

apod πηγες κι εσυ;

apod 2016-10-07T10:57:33.000218Z

oxi

stathissideris 2016-10-07T10:57:42.000219Z

epishs gourouni sthn souvla gia meshmeri kai pizza to vrady

apod 2016-10-07T10:57:57.000220Z

kali fasi, oi omilies ti legane 🙂 ?

stathissideris 2016-10-07T10:58:11.000221Z

mou arese poly pou ta talks ksefeygan ligo apo to “eftiaksa ena library"

greenonion 2016-10-07T10:58:13.000222Z

χαχαχα φασαρα

greenonion 2016-10-07T10:58:18.000223Z

ειχε κοσμο;

greenonion 2016-10-07T10:58:22.000224Z

θα ανεβουν βιντεο;

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:00:09.000225Z

video tha anevoun, eimai sthn JUXT twra opote tha rwthsw pote

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:00:22.000226Z

htan sold out

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:00:37.000227Z

ntaksei mikro, kapou 130 atoma pisteyw

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:00:46.000228Z

kai sthn mesh ths agglikhs eksoxhs

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:00:59.000229Z

phrame treno gia Milton Keynes, kai meta eixe leoforeio gia allh mish wra!

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:03:08.000230Z

edw https://goo.gl/maps/SnXsvTXdEPN2

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:03:48.000232Z

ayto to stroggylo panw-aristera apo to pin einai testing track gia kainourgia aytokinhta

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:04:14.000233Z

kai epeidh perasame apo ekei, mas evalan aytokollhtakia se oles tis kameres sta kinhta, laptops klp

apod 2016-10-07T11:04:15.000234Z

kai ego auto anarotiomoun tora poli stroggilada gia tixaio

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:04:35.000235Z

ta akougame na gkazwnoun olh mera

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:08:35.000236Z

talks: karsten (http://thi.ng guy) = mindlblowing, hakan (egrapse jitted scheme compiler se assembly) = hardcore, tommy hall = fovero talk, sam aaron (sonic pi) = poly wraios kai me poly energeia opws panta

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:08:50.000237Z

kai eixe kai martin trojer pou elege gia functional glwsses “beyond clojure"

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:09:26.000238Z

kai frankie sardo pou ekshghse pws kanei develop gia desktop/android/iphone taytoxrona kai immediate feedback

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:11:03.000239Z

epishs ekatse dipla mou tyxaia enas pou apodixthike oti einai isws o monos user tou dali, o opoios mou eixe steilei email gia ena bug prin mhnes (kai to eixa ftiaksei) kai kanonika menei Sydney

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:11:12.000241Z

teleiws koufo

apod 2016-10-07T11:11:16.000242Z

haha

2016-10-07T11:13:10.000243Z

γαμώ!

2016-10-07T11:13:18.000244Z

τελικά 18/11

greenonion 2016-10-07T11:13:23.000245Z

ελα ρε τελειο

2016-10-07T11:13:24.000246Z

θα έρθει ο batsov

greenonion 2016-10-07T11:13:33.000247Z

stathissideris ψηνομαι να δω τα videos

2016-10-07T11:13:34.000248Z

οπότε αν είναι να βρεθούμε στο meetup εκεί

greenonion 2016-10-07T11:13:50.000249Z

ναι ο bbatsov θα ειναι και ολο το π/σ/κ εδω

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:14:09.000250Z

18/11 clojure meetup at skroutz?

2016-10-07T11:18:40.000251Z

no

2016-10-07T11:18:47.000252Z

18/11 ruby meetup with batsov

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:29:26.000255Z

mporei na erthw gia to support

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:29:33.000256Z

(den exw grapsei pote Ruby)

2016-10-07T11:32:11.000257Z

καλύτερα

2016-10-07T11:32:22.000258Z

αν και μπορείς να πεις ότι δεν σου το είπα ποτέ 🙂

2016-10-07T11:32:59.000259Z

Στάθη, τι feedback πήρες γενικά για την γλωσσα;

2016-10-07T11:33:17.000260Z

πώς σου φαίνεται ή πως φαίνεται σε άλλους η εξέλιξή της;

2016-10-07T11:41:02.000261Z

@stathissideris ^

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:56:35.000262Z

@gtsiftsis den rwthsa kapoion sygekrimena gi’ayto pou les, alla gnwrisa diaforous pou exoun vrei prosfata douleia se diafora merh me Clojure kai einai h prwth fora pou douleyoun me th glwssa kai tous aresei

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:56:41.000263Z

akoma kai GYNAIKES

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:56:42.000264Z

😄

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:56:53.000265Z

sorry, apla einai spanio kai mou ekane entypwsh

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:57:04.000266Z

genika den fainetai na stamataei

stathissideris 2016-10-07T11:57:11.000267Z

kai paizei poly enthousiasmos gia to spec

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:00:00.000268Z

o Malcolm leei videos tha vgoun alla oxi syntoma

2016-10-07T12:02:07.000269Z

τέλεια πολύ ωραία

2016-10-07T12:02:20.000270Z

εδώ από την άλλη είμαστε σε φάση μαρμότας που λέει και ο νίκος

2016-10-07T12:02:41.000271Z

εκτός από apod και σένα δεν βλέπω να κινείται κάτι αλλά εντάξει

2016-10-07T12:02:45.000272Z

ελλάδα 😞

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:03:25.000273Z

pantws h baresquare exei proslavei 2 clojurades prosfata (pou ginontai siga-siga clojurades den htan apo prin)

2016-10-07T12:04:13.000274Z

nice

2016-10-07T12:04:31.000275Z

πολύ χαίρομαι, όχι κατ' ανάγκη για την γλώσσα σαν γλώσσα

2016-10-07T12:04:35.000277Z

για το mentality

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:05:39.000278Z

pantws pisteyw mporoume na symvaloume ligo me regular dojos, teleytaia fora eixe entharintiko turnout

2016-10-07T12:10:02.000279Z

εκτός από την δική μου ομάδα τα είχατε πάει υπέροχα οι υπόλοιποι 🙂

2016-10-07T12:10:07.000280Z

ναι θα ξανακάνουμε

2016-10-07T12:10:59.000281Z

ο καινούριος organizer ας τρέξει τα πράγματα 🙂

2016-10-07T12:11:07.000282Z

θα έχουμε και best organizer of the year φάση

2016-10-07T12:11:41.000283Z

Πάντως για να είμαι ειλικρινής

2016-10-07T12:11:56.000284Z

έχει απόλυτο δίκιο ο @palladin

2016-10-07T12:12:19.000285Z

όταν λέει ότι δεν ξέρουμε τι γράφουμε σε untyped γλώσσες

2016-10-07T12:12:38.000286Z

έκανα ένα πείραμα και δοκίμασα contracts σε ένα ruby project

2016-10-07T12:12:48.000287Z

2 συμπεράσματα έβγαλα:

2016-10-07T12:13:18.000288Z

1. το documentation μου ήταν out of sync με τα expectations (args, return types)

2016-10-07T12:14:08.000289Z

2. αφού τα κατάφερα να παίξει, εν τέλει ένιωσα μεγαλύτερη σιγουριά για τον κώδικα γιατί μάλλον

2016-10-07T12:14:26.000290Z

3. είχα καλύτερη κατανόηση αυτού που έπρεπε να γραφτεί

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:21:30.000291Z

ki egw symfwnw kai thelw na grapsw haskell/elm (malista elm mallon tha xreiastei syntoma)

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:22:00.000292Z

alla apo thn allh mporei na exei kapoio nohma kai to approach tou generative testing/contracts klp

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:22:08.000293Z

den exw apofasisei pio styl mou aresei akoma

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:22:22.000294Z

(kyriws giati den exw empeiria apo “kala” type systems)

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:29:31.000295Z

+1

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:29:43.000296Z

δεν εχω πραγματικο day-to-day με σοβαρο type system

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:29:49.000297Z

μου φαινονται ενδιαφεροντα

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:29:55.000298Z

με αγχωνουν και λιγο οτι θα μπαινουν στη μεση

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:30:07.000299Z

η Elm ειναι καλος candidate νομιζω

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:30:14.000300Z

για πειραματισμους

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:30:19.000301Z

που θα χρειαστεις stathissideris ;

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:30:58.000302Z

@greenonion oi http://opensensors.io poia exoun public site tous se Elm

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:31:09.000303Z

αα ναι θυμαμαι που το ελεγες

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:31:16.000304Z

υπαρχει λογος που προτιμησαν αντι για cljs

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:31:16.000305Z

;

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:31:34.000306Z

egw ayth th stigmh douleyw sto “business” site tous pou einai cljs, alla mallon tha emplakw kai sto allo

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:31:38.000307Z

nai, types

stathissideris 2016-10-07T12:31:46.000308Z

they like types now 🙂

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:31:49.000309Z

🙂

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:31:55.000310Z

ρε ακουγα παλι ενα podcast

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:20.000311Z

απο τον τυπο που ειχε μιλησει στο περσινο strange loop (νομιζω) για elm in production

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:25.000312Z

κι ελεγε followup

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:30.000313Z

1+ χρονο μετα in production

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:36.000314Z

0 runtime exceptions

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:38.000315Z

impressive

greenonion 2016-10-07T12:32:52.000316Z

και απ’ οτι θυμαμαι δεν ειναι trivial αυτο που φτιαχνουν

palladin 2016-10-07T12:48:14.000317Z

Mia bdomadoula programming se Haskell ... meta ola tha allaksoun

palladin 2016-10-07T12:52:50.000318Z

kirios giati to type system... epireazei poli ton tropo pou skeftese... den einai apla ena tool

palladin 2016-10-07T12:53:00.000319Z

opos einai ta contracts px

palladin 2016-10-07T12:53:42.000320Z

eidika type systems me isxiro polimorhismo

palladin 2016-10-07T12:54:16.000321Z

opos rank-N, existentials ktlp

palladin 2016-10-07T12:54:49.000322Z

genikotera na exeis tin dinami sistimaton vasismena se System F

palladin 2016-10-07T12:55:08.000323Z

stin ekfrastikotita

stathissideris 2016-10-07T16:01:20.000324Z

@palladin milise kai o Martin sto XT16 gia ayta

palladin 2016-10-07T16:04:42.000325Z

@stathissideris Pisteuo se liga xronia oles autes oi idees tha einai para poli diadedomenes

palladin 2016-10-07T16:06:04.000326Z

pera apo to ICFP pou einai kathara akadimaiko

palladin 2016-10-07T16:06:59.000327Z

vlepo para polla nea conferences pou exoun os kentriko aksona autes tis glosses kai to mindset pou kouvaloun

palladin 2016-10-07T16:07:31.000328Z

ego pao kai stixima

palladin 2016-10-07T16:08:23.000329Z

oti pano apo tous misous pou simera kanoun clojure... se 3 xronia tha programmatizoun me plousia types se mia Haskell-like glossa

stathissideris 2016-10-07T16:10:14.000330Z

@palladin yparxei parallhla kai mia endiaferousa eksereynhsh twn contracts kai twn sxetikwn texnologiwn (Racket, Clojure spec) pou isws na epivradinei ayto pou les

palladin 2016-10-07T16:26:04.000331Z

@stathissideris Isos... alla nomizo oti i goitia tis Haskell tha tous traviksei enteli

palladin 2016-10-07T16:44:21.000332Z

@stathissideris vevea gia ta contracts.... tha afiso ton Matthias na milisei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTl7Jn_kmio

palladin 2016-10-07T17:02:57.000333Z

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