clojure-norway

Brian Abbott 2020-09-12T00:52:24.111Z

Hi - How popular is Clojure in Norway? I am thinking of moving there, in perhaps 4/5 years.

Brian Abbott 2020-09-12T00:52:43.111500Z

I would have to get good at Norwegian which I totally expect to do

james 2020-09-12T11:47:12.120300Z

I had an American colleague who was a bit disappointed that Norwegians are so happy to speak English that he wasn't getting any practice speaking Norwegian. 🙂

james 2020-09-12T11:47:39.120500Z

(Not that we're necessarily great at speaking English, but we think we are.)

slipset 2020-09-12T07:25:54.117200Z

Brian. It’s hard to say how popular Clojure is in Norway, but there are several companies which hire for Clojure devs from time to time. The company I’m working for, Ardoq is hiring atm, see https://careers.ardoq.com/ As for learning Norwegian, that’s nice, but a lot of foreigners get by with English. At ardoq, the company language is English, and we have several Americans working in the Oslo office.

2020-09-12T09:18:30.117700Z

working on a clojurescript and so far undecided on backend project right now, maybe we'll hire in the future 🙂

2020-09-12T09:18:59.118500Z

at kodemaker we also have a couple of consultants that's somehow managed to use only Clojure at various customers for the last 4-5 years

Jakub HolĂœ 2020-09-12T11:46:50.120200Z

I would say it is quite niche though we are doing our best to expand it. Though, as pointed out above, there certainly are opportunities.

james 2020-09-12T18:18:06.122400Z

Kva slags editors brukar folk her? (Er CIDER like fint som SLIME for Emacs, om nokon her har brukt det?)

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james 2020-09-12T18:19:05.122900Z

(Calva ser fint ut, men det hadde vore behageleg Ă„ bruka Emacs...)

james 2020-09-12T18:22:35.123300Z

(Fordi eg er 100 Ă„r gamal.)

2020-09-12T18:29:05.123700Z

jeg er pÄ intellij/cursive-kjÞret

james 2020-09-12T18:29:23.124300Z

Er det like slick som Java med IntelliJ?

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2020-09-12T18:29:23.124400Z

har ogsÄ blitt glad i vscode pÄ jobb, men der gÄr det i Elixir, aner ikke hvordan Clojure-stÞtten er

2020-09-12T18:29:34.124700Z

ja, veldig slick med cursive 🙂

james 2020-09-12T18:29:40.124900Z

👍

james 2020-09-12T18:30:27.125600Z

@augustl Litt off-topic her, men kan eg spĂžrja kva som er greia med Elixir? Eg skjĂžnar ikkje heilt opplegget. Dvs. kvifor ein brukar det i staden for Erlang, som virkar kult nok i seg sjĂžlv.

uosl 2020-09-29T09:13:15.000400Z

Vil (sent) legge til at Erlang syntaksen er noe for seg selv, og ogsÄ har en del "legacy hacks" for bla. records. Jeg har ikke prÞvd Elixir selv, men kan se for meg nyttigheten av det. Fra hva jeg har hÞrt sÄ er hovedgrunnen folk velger Elixir at de skyr unna Erlang's rare syntaks med kommaer og punktum.

james 2020-09-29T09:32:24.000600Z

SĂ„ dei likar ikkje Prolog-syntaks?! Rart. 🙂

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2020-09-12T18:30:45.125900Z

litt usikker, det er vel en god del convenience i Elixir sÄvidt jeg vet

2020-09-12T18:31:16.126400Z

har aldri brukt erlang sĂ„ jeg har ikke sĂ„ mye smart Ă„ si egentlig 🙂

2020-09-12T18:31:32.126600Z

har erlang alt dette, f.eks? https://hexdocs.pm/elixir/Enum.html

2020-09-12T18:31:50.127Z

sÄ er det sikkert masse features som gjÞr ting mulig som jeg ikke kan sÄ mye om enda, har bare vÊrt pÄ prosjekt i en mÄned

2020-09-12T18:31:56.127200Z

macroer og sÄnn, kanskje :man-shrugging:

james 2020-09-12T18:32:04.127600Z

Ok.

2020-09-12T18:32:09.127900Z

har ikke helt kontroll pĂ„ hvor erlang slutter og hvor elixir begynner 🙂

james 2020-09-12T18:32:14.128100Z

Nei, eg er ikkje noko Erlang-ekspert sjĂžlv. Las ei bok for nokre Ă„r sidan...

james 2020-09-12T18:32:49.128300Z

Men Elixir er artig, eller?

2020-09-12T18:34:17.128800Z

ja jo nei, kommer nok ikke til Ă„ velge bort Clojure(Script) over Elixir hvis det er opp til meg 🙂

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2020-09-12T18:34:29.129Z

men "let it crash" funker i praksis veldig bra

2020-09-12T18:34:52.129700Z

altsÄ at all koden du skriver er lagt opp til Ä lage en prosess som henter data fra f.eks en database, og hvis noe gÄr galt, sÄ bare dÞr prosessen og starter pÄ nytt og henter data pÄ nytt

2020-09-12T18:35:06.130100Z

i praksis gjĂžr det at du ofte ender opp med Ă„ ikke merke bugs

2020-09-12T18:35:20.130400Z

som i, vi fÄr det med oss, og fikser de, men det resulterer ikke i en feil mot sluttbruker

slipset 2020-09-12T18:57:36.131100Z

Bruker Cider (har ingen erfaring med Slime, sĂ„ kan ikke kommentere pĂ„ det), men bruker Intellij/cursive til find-usages 😕

2020-09-12T18:59:22.131500Z

IntelliJ er sentralnervestimulerende pÄ hvor god den er pÄ "smarts" om koden

james 2020-09-12T19:41:32.131700Z

Ser ut som det er litt same greia.