Clojurians Log v2

anybody here attending teh next SF meetup?

https://www.meetup.com/The-Bay-Area-Clojure-User-Group/events/hbfjcrybcfbhb/

is people here mostly working on clojure on their day jobs? as a hobby?

I'm curious how many silicon valley companies are using clojure these days in teh sf bay area

I'm not using it on my day job at the moment

There are number of companies in SF Bay using Clojure. Unfortunately, you’d have to manually go through the list to identify which ones are located in the area https://clojure.org/community/companies

cool that's one way haha

I was just wondering about the people on this room for a start 🙂

I’m trying to remember if employer and location were questions in the State of Clojure 2020 survey…

don't think so

would had been an interesting metric to know

“using Clojure” is a relative phrasing - some companies in that list have built Clojure services that still being used in production, but they are not actively working on them anymore and not hiring and trying to grow Clojure teams. Again, you have to go case by case and find out which ones are actively using Clojure. I can name just a few active players: Funding Circle, World Singles, Walmart, CircleCI, Apple, Ladder, Mayvenn, Parkside, Dividend, Watchful, Pandora, OKLetsPlay, etc.

if I remember correctly funding circle is where the meetups happen in SF, and I think someone mentioned they are not really a "full clojure shop" (fwiw)

well I guess none of the ones you mentioned is, but what does it mean to be full-clj anyway... nada hah

I think the good metric is: if I join this company, and I attempt to solve a problem with clojure, will I be pursued with sticks and forks? The answer is probably no for the companies you list

the answer is yes for Google, for instance

Funding Circle is big enough to have multiple stacks, and at the time when I left it about a year ago Clojure was a primary stack. There are a bunch of Ruby apps that we were considering “legacy” and were thinking of slowly killing them.

Maybe you can post in #jobs #jobs-discuss for more exposure on this topic

But it’s not just SF there

@andrew.sinclair #jobs-discuss not #jobs -- the latter is for announcements only.

Sorry, I forgot to answer the original question. My team at work does use Clojure for new and existing projects. We have team members in Sunnyvale California, Austin Texas, and Bangalore India.

(WSN has two Clojure devs and our entire backend is Clojure -- about 90k lines)

Oh well. You sir is worth of ten companies. Your presence in the Bay Area means it’s a Bay Area company. 🙂

I think LinkedIn has some Clojure stuff going on (they are heavily polyglot) and I think Netflix too... There were quite a few Bay Area startups doing Clojure a while back... not sure how many of those are still in existence?

I haven’t heard for a long time that LinkedIn (Microsoft) or Netflix hiring Clojure devs. Apple on the other hand actively recruiting.

I heard about metabase at least

Startups are doing very well with Clojure. Like Clojure is meant to be used by smaller teams, no need for complicated bureaucracy, etc.. I had a privilege to work with a small team of seven developers at Mayvenn. I have to say - never in my career working for big companies I have seen so much stuff getting done and maintained.

I felt like all that machinery was built by 70-80 developer team and was given them as a gift to maintain. Alas, most of it was built by 3-4 people and they eventually grown to 7.

interesting, I never heard about Mayvenn before