Clojurians Log v2

Morning

Interesting how’s the influence of caffeine to various people. Some need it, I barely feel it. I remember, when I was younger, and when I was going to parties, I could drink 8 redbulls to keep me up for a few more hours and come home and fall asleep immediately. All my life, caffeine doesn’t do almost anything to me, so I drink coffee just for the taste. A friend of mine is exactly the opposite. He can drink coffee only before noon, otherwise he would end up staring to the ceiling until 3am.

My wife is much more sensitive to it than I am. It wakes me up at the time, but doesn't last, so I can drink coffee after dinner in the evening and still sleep. My wife cannot drink any caffeine after about 2 pm 😞

Getting to sleep is rarely an issue for me. I am not sure if my sleep quality is worse these days, but I have certainly been waking more in the night for the last 6-12 months, so I have been keeping my caffeine intake mostly to the morning (or occasionally lunchtime/just after).

morning

mawnmån

Good morning!

Good Morning

I've been used to drinking coffee from a very young age. When I was at secondary/middle/high school, my dad used to make me a HUGE thermos flask with Nescafe Gold Blend(!) for my lunches

I used to sit, with the others, in the lunch area, slurping away at my coffee 🙂

I was put off coffee for quite a while by only having experienced terrible coffee (my parents drink Nescafe Original, which is much worse than the Gold Blend)

morning, and I can't really drink caffeine aster 14h. otherwise I have trouble falling a sleep later at night.

@dharrigan same - i have an ancient memory of deciding to give up sugar in my coffee at around the age of 6! (nescafe, not real coffee ofc - i don't think espresso arrived in the north before about 2005... (have i got my dates right @alex.lynham?))

Morn'

Morning

haha i've only been in the north since errr 2008? @mccraigmccraig

there were already at least... 3 trendy coffee places in NQ

though i did arrive early enough that i remember when NQ had independent shops and not just coffee shops and bars lol

i'm not sure NQ is representative... it's full of bbc london refugees isn't it ?

I was also put off coffee at a young age by the fact that my dad drank Nescafe. I consequently thought that coffee was a foul tasting drink.

It was only when I went to Melbourne aged 29 and had a properly nice coffee in a cafe that I realised that coffee could be a good thing.

didsbury/chorlton is where the londoners live

although yeah i guess some of the younger ones live in town so you're probs right

:man-shrugging: it's been so long - mcr is a foreign country to me now

I used to live in Didsbury

A fine fine place

I really enjoyed the Fletcher Moss, then walking around Millgate Fields along the Mersey.

And having a pint (and peanuts!) at The Dog & Partridge.

Btw, not deep enough in java to know, but any interesting things that come out of this for clojure? https://medium.com/graalvm/java-on-truffle-going-fully-metacircular-215531e3f840

tbh, I don't understand it at all.

Fair enough 😃... I was just wondering if some of the stuff they would have to do to provide java support might end up being useful things from the clojure side as well. One interesting bit was the mention that you could effectively swap jvm's by just loading code, allowing you to change from java 8 to java 11 or run them side by side...

> Java on Truffle can bring the JIT compiler and the dynamic Java runtime to an ahead-of-time compiled binary. > This means that you can take a Java app, build a JVM into it, and then run that app either on a JVM or as a native image. Note that in the latter case, Java on Truffle can actually execute arbitrary Java code which doesn’t necessarily need to be known at the build time." I wonder if this means more Clojure apps will be capable of surviving the native-image process?

There's a good comment thread on this https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/l0uydi/java_on_truffle_going_fully_metacircular/

Just watching the inauguration on tv

well, in my browser

yeah as far as I understand it having a java vm implementation in truffle, and compiling that into a graalvm native image should in principle mean the clojure compiler and essentially almost any clojure program could now run as a graalvm native image. You might want to ask on #babashka to be sure; borkdude should know

@sfyire, just saw that, looks like there is some fun stuff on the horizon 😃