clojure-uk

A place for people in the UK, near the UK, visiting the UK, planning to visit the UK or just vaguely interested to randomly chat about things (often vi and emacs, occasionally clojure). More general the #ldnclj
Aron 2021-05-04T04:59:48.426300Z

morning 🙂

dharrigan 2021-05-04T05:32:59.426500Z

Good Morning!

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djm 2021-05-04T05:43:25.426700Z

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djm 2021-05-04T05:57:16.428400Z

I got a cheque from the tax man for over £2000 for last year - not sure if I should be pleased, or annoyed that they've been taking £170/month too much (and I don't recall any decrease in what I'm paying this year, so maybe they still are)

seancorfield 2021-05-04T06:04:24.429100Z

Lucky you. The last two years here we’ve ended up owing Federal taxes of around $3,500 due to Trump’s stupid “tax cut”.

thomas 2021-05-04T08:14:17.437100Z

I thought that Trump tax cut was only for people who already had loads of money?

seancorfield 2021-05-04T16:33:16.439200Z

@thomas The permanent part was, yes. But he added temporary adjustments to everyone’s withholdings and many people’s taxes did go down (for the first year, back in 2017/8) but then the cut goes away a little each year for the people who needed it most. We normally get a refund from both Federal and State so it was a bit of a shock to suddenly owe $6k — I could have understood it just eating away at our refund year-on-year…

thomas 2021-05-04T17:29:36.439400Z

seems all rather complicated. And I am allergic to complicated things.

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seancorfield 2021-05-04T17:50:36.439600Z

America is not for you then, @thomas 🙂 It has world-class bureaucracy! 🙂

thomas 2021-05-04T19:03:13.439800Z

There is plenty of bureaucracy here... there is no escape I suspect

seancorfield 2021-05-04T06:04:54.429800Z

(We’ve had money back from the State each time though — American taxes are way more complex than UK taxes 😞 )

djm 2021-05-04T06:08:18.429900Z

It's certainly better than the other way round.

seancorfield 2021-05-04T06:10:22.430100Z

The first year Trump’s “tax cuts” came into effect, we went from getting a $3k refund to owing over $3k so basically his “tax cut” cost us $6k/year 😞

seancorfield 2021-05-04T06:11:34.430300Z

And I would so much prefer dealing with the Inland Revenue: they are so polite and, generally, competent. Our Inland Revenue Service is a terrible bureaucracy: inefficient, rude, and it’s like shouting into the void to get anything done 😐

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:29:05.431Z

Which reminds me, people working from home here in the UK, April has past, so, don't forget to renew your working from home tax benefit! <https://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees/working-at-home>

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:29:20.431300Z

Extra £300, little, but every penny counts! 🙂

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:29:39.431600Z

You have to do it each year. I did mine a few weeks ago

Aron 2021-05-04T07:35:33.432100Z

Need to identify myself first.

djm 2021-05-04T07:36:30.432300Z

Thank you - I didn't realise I had to re-do it. I don't actually recall anything happening as a result of when I did it the last time

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:36:55.432500Z

Did your tax code change?

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:37:13.432700Z

I got a notification to say it had (also, you can log into the website with your universal tax number to see)

djm 2021-05-04T07:37:32.432900Z

I don't remember it changing, but I may have just forgotten

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:38:49.433100Z

So, the standard UK standard tax code is 1257L, which is the £12,570 standard personal allowance

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:39:15.433300Z

after the change, I now have 1288L which is £12,880 allowance.

djm 2021-05-04T07:39:31.433600Z

Mine was 1250L in March 2020, and was still 1250L in October 2020

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:39:46.433800Z

Looks like you may be owed some money!

djm 2021-05-04T07:39:49.434Z

I don't have access to anything more recent than that, due to another saga

djm 2021-05-04T07:41:36.434200Z

12880 - 12500 = £380. It looks like they refunded me for £170/month. 40% of £380 is £152

djm 2021-05-04T07:42:01.434400Z

(Is 40% a relevant number? I may just be making that up)

djm 2021-05-04T07:42:28.434600Z

So far I've received a cheque, with a letter saying that the calculations would come in a separate letter

djm 2021-05-04T07:42:41.434800Z

But I haven't been given a new tax code

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:43:14.435Z

Try to apply for it, you have to do it every year. If that doesn't work, give them a bell 🙂

djm 2021-05-04T07:43:29.435200Z

Yeah, I re-did it just now

djm 2021-05-04T07:44:09.435400Z

One of the questions is about if you started working from home because of covid, which is still true until the end of June. I guess the answer to that will be no after that

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:44:49.435600Z

I don't think it matters at all. It's for statistics. You could be working from home simply because you've negogiated that with your work, to put your home as your primary place of work

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:45:23.435800Z

Could be that the company you work for is also 100% remote!, so that is just for statistical gathering

djm 2021-05-04T07:45:30.436Z

🤞

dharrigan 2021-05-04T07:47:49.436400Z

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2021-05-04T09:08:43.437300Z

Morning

2021-05-04T10:14:53.437600Z

Morn'

alexlynham 2021-05-04T10:31:45.437900Z

morning

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-04T13:54:46.438700Z

wow - that's 2 hours i'll never get back figuring out how to connect an RDS instance to S3 ...

thomas 2021-05-04T15:04:29.438800Z

AWS can be black magic is my experience

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-04T15:55:13.439Z

definitely black magic i found the solution in the end - it turned out that if your RDS instance is in a private VPC then there is another step, which was conveniently omitted from all the AWS docs on how to enable S3 access for RDS 😬 . stackoverflow thankfully plugged the gap, but it took me an age to work through all the AWS routes to finally figure out none of them worked

dominicm 2021-05-04T19:42:03.440Z

Sometimes AWS is too secure