clojure-uk

A place for people in the UK, near the UK, visiting the UK, planning to visit the UK or just vaguely interested to randomly chat about things (often vi and emacs, occasionally clojure). More general the #ldnclj
dharrigan 2021-05-26T04:40:35.094700Z

Morning!

djm 2021-05-26T05:20:31.094800Z

👋 💉

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-26T08:40:58.099400Z

@djm_uk i also didn't feel anything when they vaxxed me ... got a sore arm the day after though, so i'm reasonably confident he didn't miss my arm

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:24:54.094900Z

How’s the arm? And the rest of you?

djm 2021-05-26T05:25:18.095100Z

The arm hurts, the rest of me is fine.

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:25:39.095300Z

I got my second shingles shot today — my arm hurts too! 🙂

djm 2021-05-26T05:26:53.095500Z

I was impressed with the skill of the lady who injected me - when I got home I asked my wife to check that she'd actually done it, as I didn't feel a thing!

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seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:28:10.095800Z

I def. felt the shingles shot going in… but that dissipated after a few minutes. Now I have a big, hot knot in my left arm though 😐 The Moderna shots didn’t hurt going in.

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:29:12.096Z

I have to say: I always had terrible problems with shots and blood draws in the UK — it always hurt and left a massive bruise. The nurses etc doing shots and blood draws in the US seem much more skilled — it hardly ever hurts here and only rarely leaves a bruise.

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:29:26.096200Z

(and I have blood drawn every six months for lab work)

djm 2021-05-26T05:31:22.096400Z

I've found that it's quite variable, but most do fairly well when taking blood (and I've had a lot of blood tests, though probably fewer than you)

djm 2021-05-26T05:33:22.096600Z

I do remember one person who was particularly bad, after telling me that she didn't like hurting people. But she had only recently trained to do it (as part of a thing to train people in pharmacies to do it, so that people didn't have to go to hospitals, etc)

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:37:52.096800Z

My problem is that I have “shy” veins, so it takes a skilled phlebotomist to nail them…

seancorfield 2021-05-26T05:38:11.097Z

…the unskilled one sort of have to… dig around for them 😞

Aron 2021-05-26T05:53:53.097300Z

mroning

djm 2021-05-26T06:06:25.097400Z

Ouch!

2021-05-26T06:08:23.097700Z

Morning

2021-05-26T06:38:17.098200Z

Oh, good to hear @danielcompton has rebooted The Repl https://mailchi.mp/9f5693427909/bdjnspvo8f

djm 2021-05-26T07:09:08.098500Z

I have unread articles in my feed reader from 12 months ago

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2021-05-26T06:38:54.098300Z

And yes, I’m 3 days out with my RSS feeds….

djm 2021-05-26T07:09:08.098500Z

I have unread articles in my feed reader from 12 months ago

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Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-26T07:50:27.098800Z

Morning

Luis Thiam-Nye 2021-05-26T08:25:26.099100Z

Good Morning™

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-26T08:39:37.099300Z

morning¡

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-26T08:40:58.099400Z

@djm_uk i also didn't feel anything when they vaxxed me ... got a sore arm the day after though, so i'm reasonably confident he didn't miss my arm

thomas 2021-05-26T08:41:09.099700Z

mogge

admarrs 2021-05-26T09:00:18.100500Z

Good morning, just joined this channel so wanted to say Hi.

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thomas 2021-05-26T09:05:31.100900Z

Welcome @admarrs

thomas 2021-05-26T09:06:01.101500Z

and please note that there is also #clojure-europe which has a bit more traffic these days.

admarrs 2021-05-26T09:21:07.102200Z

@thomas thanks, I'll check it out.

thomas 2021-05-26T10:04:08.103Z

anyone watching Dominic Cummings's statement?

djm 2021-05-26T10:08:29.103300Z

No, should we be? 😨

Conor 2021-05-26T10:10:49.103400Z

Watching via Ian Dunt's Twitter comments, more fun that way

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-26T10:41:32.103800Z

Reading the guardian feed. Not really surprised by anything he said so far

thomas 2021-05-26T11:05:30.104500Z

I had a quick look at the Guardian feed as well. not really surprising really, I agree

2021-05-26T13:29:15.104700Z

Morn'

dharrigan 2021-05-26T14:40:06.105Z

Crazy stuff coming from what Dominic is saying!

dharrigan 2021-05-26T14:40:51.106Z

I mean, how can Our Man Boris survive if what Dominic is saying is true, and there's no reason to think he's pulling a fast one. He certainly has scores to settle...which he appears to be doing very very well, twisty knife and all that.

thomas 2021-05-26T14:50:33.106300Z

it is a soap opera

Aron 2021-05-26T14:53:42.106700Z

well said, a distraction

2021-05-26T16:12:06.112600Z

I’ve only skimmed a few of the remarks, throughout the day but I’ve not really seen much that wasn’t blatantly obvious at the time (even going back to February last year). We witnessed Italy, China and many other countries being brought to a stand still, with health services on their knees. It was nothing short of criminal negligence to think that the UK was in someway different and that strong early action wasn’t necessary. Not to mention the many more well documented accounts of corruption and negligence since then. The country sadly seems to think it’s ok, and that nobody could have predicted this. We’re an island, and could easily have been like New Zealand or Australia, but also with a successful vaccine rollout.

2021-05-26T16:45:59.119100Z

On the vaccine rollout, I’m not sure how much credit I’d give the government… Az/Oxford, Pfizer/Biontec etc… They’re clearly all super smart people who deserve most of the credit. All the government needed to do is realise vaccines are the only good way out of this, then step back and let the professionals (and NHS 👏 etc who are experienced with vaccine programmes) get on with it. I’m surely naive but it seems to me all the government needed to do is keep signing the cheques, which I’m very glad they did; but wouldn’t anyone have done that?!?!

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-26T16:50:18.119500Z

Yeah, I think the vaccine rollout went so well because the NHS was/is handling it

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