clojure-uk

A place for people in the UK, near the UK, visiting the UK, planning to visit the UK or just vaguely interested to randomly chat about things (often vi and emacs, occasionally clojure). More general the #ldnclj
djm 2021-05-28T05:59:10.142300Z

:waving:

dharrigan 2021-05-28T06:10:35.142500Z

Good Morning!

seancorfield 2021-05-28T06:10:45.142700Z

TGIF! ๐Ÿ™‚

djm 2021-05-28T06:14:18.142800Z

And a bank holiday on Monday, for some of us!

Aron 2021-05-28T06:18:43.143100Z

morning

dharrigan 2021-05-28T06:19:57.143200Z

And surprisingly, it looks like the weather is going to be pretty darn good!

dharrigan 2021-05-28T06:20:13.143400Z

I foresee a trip to the beach!

seancorfield 2021-05-28T06:24:04.143600Z

I had totally forgotten about the bank holiday. Iโ€™m working but two of my colleagues are taking Monday off.

seancorfield 2021-05-28T06:25:26.143800Z

(over here itโ€™s โ€œMemorial Dayโ€ which is a holiday for banks/government and most regular workers โ€” but my company treats all holidays as fungible since it has so many different cultures)

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-28T06:27:57.144100Z

ยกmorening

jiriknesl 2021-05-28T07:19:22.144300Z

Morning

jasonbell 2021-05-28T07:49:12.144500Z

Morning

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-28T07:49:46.144700Z

Happy Friday ๐Ÿ˜„

thomas 2021-05-28T08:06:36.144900Z

mogge

alexlynham 2021-05-28T09:30:20.145100Z

morning

2021-05-28T10:46:13.145300Z

Morning

dharrigan 2021-05-28T10:47:42.145600Z

I had some fun yesterday messing around with my home LAN

dharrigan 2021-05-28T10:47:46.145800Z

doing ipv6 stuff

dharrigan 2021-05-28T10:47:50.146Z

tis fun ๐Ÿ™‚

dharrigan 2021-05-28T10:48:48.146400Z

(I've always been a bit of networking nerd at heart too)

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-28T12:24:41.148100Z

I am surprised that IPv6 is not as ubiquitous as I thought it would be. I remember when I learned about them in vocational school 8 years ago. I would have thought by now that we would be using them for everything ๐Ÿ˜„

dharrigan 2021-05-28T12:53:28.148300Z

One day... ๐Ÿ™‚

Aron 2021-05-28T12:56:05.149600Z

I thought that ipv6 is the default at many places now. The ipv4 thing is there because everyone is afraid of backwards compatibility. (guess who has the oldest networks?)

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:19:24.150800Z

An ipv6 link local address is normally provisionsed on all NICs these days, on mostly all OSs (unless it's turned off etc.. etc...), so you can ping other local hosts on the same broadcast domain

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:19:56.151500Z

But, having a company actually configure IPv6 routing and having a dhcpv6 server up and running etc...well, not that many. Bigger ones perhaps...

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:21:17.151800Z

(then you have SLAAC as well...)

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-28T13:22:39.152100Z

I know some of the words you just said ๐Ÿ˜„

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:24:03.152500Z

You can test if you have ipv6 running here <https://test-ipv6.com/>

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:24:12.152700Z

I get a 10/10

djm 2021-05-28T13:25:37.152800Z

I was recently bitten by not having an AAAA record for a domain

Jakob Durstberger 2021-05-28T13:30:59.153800Z

0/10 โ€ฆ. guess thatโ€™s a bummer

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:31:02.153900Z

The adoption rate of ipv6 is growing, simply because the ipv4 address space is now exhausted, and NAT will only take you so far

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:31:33.154600Z

About 30% of the top 1000 websites are accessible via ipv6. Still a ways to go, but every day it grows.

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:33:51.155700Z

I think one of the biggest fears is the unfounded notion that because every device on your network gets it's own globally unique ipv6 address (if your ISP hands them out), then suddently every device on your network is reachable from the outside.

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:34:28.156600Z

That's simply not true. Your firewall will block any unestablished connections from the outside to inside your network, just like normal.

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:37:15.157800Z

It's funny, the amount of unique addreses that I can provision for my own internal network, using my own unique local address, i.e., fd10::/64 is over 18 quintrillion addresses

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:37:32.158200Z

I can have over 18 quintrillion hosts in my own little subnet at home

dharrigan 2021-05-28T13:37:36.158500Z

๐Ÿ™‚

Aron 2021-05-28T14:01:30.159200Z

what I need is my own personal search index for the websites I use most often

Conor 2021-05-28T14:21:46.159300Z

Bring back 'Ask Jeeves', I say

Aron 2021-05-28T14:25:54.159500Z

never used it

dharrigan 2021-05-28T14:36:45.159700Z

Ahh, Jeeves

dharrigan 2021-05-28T14:36:50.159900Z

many moons ago

dharrigan 2021-05-28T14:37:50.160300Z

that and AltaVista

dharrigan 2021-05-28T14:38:17.160500Z

In 2000, AltaVista was used by 17.7% of Internet users while Google was only used by 7% of Internet users, according to Media Metrix.[15]

dharrigan 2021-05-28T14:38:23.160800Z

how times have changed

2021-05-28T14:55:33.161500Z

I remember being blown away because you could actually "ask" stuff to http://askjeeves.com

Aron 2021-05-28T15:28:52.162100Z

in any case, no remote service could do what I want, that's the point ๐Ÿ˜

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-28T15:33:13.163Z

you mean something like a site:A.com,<http://B.com|B.com> stuff query @ashnur? if google supported more than 1 site on the site: list

Aron 2021-05-28T15:33:22.163200Z

no

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-28T15:34:24.164900Z

i'm clearly not understanding ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

Aron 2021-05-28T15:34:32.165200Z

right now a large chunk of my browsing goes through google, but it's only due to my laziness and the fact that I use lots of websites that they themselves are changing constantly, otherwise, I could set up bookmarks and bookmarklets and snippets and scraping and whatnot.

Aron 2021-05-28T15:35:34.166200Z

the problem with this is that 1. can't index authenticated websites or anything that's private 2. I can't do analytics on my own searches very easily.

mccraigmccraig 2021-05-28T15:37:26.168400Z

ah, and it's particularly [1] that's the issue

Aron 2021-05-28T15:37:40.168700Z

if you start thinking about it

Aron 2021-05-28T15:37:49.168900Z

there are many benefits of having an individualized distributed search index

Aron 2021-05-28T15:39:26.170300Z

but like all p2p stuff, goes against the status quo, which is about trying to capture users, not about trying to build a specific tool for a specific problem (as opposed to rent seeking, where you charge someone for every hit with the hammer ๐Ÿ˜„ )

Aron 2021-05-28T15:42:50.171100Z

I know about several solutions where people setup mirrors for search engines. But I don't know the details, seems like something else. e.g. https://searx.ir/

Aron 2021-05-28T15:43:27.171400Z

https://searx.space/

Aron 2021-05-28T15:44:34.171800Z

https://searx.github.io/searx/admin/plugins.html like, these are all nice but