Clojurians Log v2

Do you know that slack has unlimited messages for non-profits? https://slack.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204368833-Slack-for-Nonprofits If clojurebridge creates its own team on slack, there would be no issue with messages disappearing because of the 10,000 limit. Is there interest in creating a separate team account for clojurebridge?

What happens if our team has more than 100 members?

If your nonprofit team is large (100+), or you anticipate it growing to more than 100 users, please contact us with details on how you intend to use Slack so we can help you get the most out of it.

@elenam: That sounded to good to be true :simple_smile:

@martinklepsch: this doesn't mean "no", but it may complicate things. @kf and other Clojurebridge board members, what do you think? It may be not worth it, and every organizing group can set itself up as a separate team, but it would be very convenient to have one slack team for clojurebridge, with each city creating their own group within it.

@elenam: We actually already created a Slack group for ClojureBridge, at one point, but more people joined this channel, so we went where the people went. At another point, we were also discussing creating a Bridge Foundry Slack group for all of the bridges, but that didn’t really happen, either—in part, IIRC, because it’d be harder to moderate than async message boards and Google Groups. (We attempted to do a Bridge Foundry message board, but not many people volunteered to mod.)

@kf: thanks for the info! Are people just not affected by the 10,000 limit? Our group may be an exception since we have a few months to plan the event, so our pace is much slower than a typical slack pace. We've lost all our previous communications. It's not a huge deal (which makes me think that it's even less of deal for a faster-pace planning process), but certainly an inconvenience. Anyone else had that issue?

@kf: Also, does the earlier team still exist, and is it non-profit? We might choose to move there.

Re: “are people just not affected,” I’m not sure, to be honest. I move logistics- and planning-related conversations I’m involved in over to email whenever possible, though that’s not an organizational policy—just a personal one. The Philly folks are using Slack to coordinate their ClojureBridge efforts, but that’s in a different Slack group (there’s a Philly Dev group for Philly-area technologists), so it moves at a different pace.

Re: “does the earlier team still exist, and is it non-profit,” the earlier group does still exist, but we never sought non-profit status for it. This might be something I could work out via our Bridge Foundry status, though I’d have to ping the other Bridge Foundry folks first; it’s not clear whether Slack would grant us a Slack group for each bridge, or if we’d have to pool together into one group.

I can't imagine an individual organizing group reaching 10,000 messages that they care about (I could be wrong on this, of course), so I was thinking of a clojurebridge (or a bridgefoundry) team where each location can create their own group (our group was set as private so that we could discuss names of potential mentors, career panel participants, etc).

But that may be a pretty huge team even if each location has 5-10 members.

Er, sorry, but what do you mean by “team” here, @elenam? For example, right now, we are in the #C050YB2HH channel in the clojurians Slack group.

I was assuming all clojurebridge channel members.

Ah, okay! Yeah, with only 100 members (and only some subset of them active), it would definitely take longer to hit the “10,000 messages we care about” mark—but, depending on the pace of conversation, you’d be surprise how quickly you can hit 10,000 messages! Especially since those 10,000 messages include direct messages.

I can email the rest of the Bridge Foundry board, though, and see whether opinions have changed about a Slack group for attendees, community organizers, etc.? If not, I’ll provide a link to the old ClojureBridge Slack group, which people can use at their own discretion.

(I’ll also ping the other ClojureBridge board members first, though I’m not sure whether we even had a conversation about opening the Slack group, in the first place.)

@kf: Sounds great, thanks for looking into it! Yes, I agree that it takes faster than one'd think to hit 10,000 messages, so the only reason for a separate clojurebridge team account would be to get a non-profit status, which requires a bit of paperwork, esp. for teams of 100+ members (the default restriction for a non-profit is 100 members; don't know if they would feel that an exception is justified).

Well, not the only reason, probably, but one of the main reasons.