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practicalli-john 2019-11-06T01:22:31.155500Z

I will follow up with all the speakers via their supplied emails and make them aware of the situation. It seems increasingly unlikely that SkillsMatter will do this.

practicalli-john 2019-11-06T01:24:22.158200Z

I am not an official source, as people have already highlighted in announcements elsewhere. I am unable to change things on the SkillsMatter website but have done comes everywhere, just the speakers to do now.

practicalli-john 2019-11-06T01:25:12.159300Z

It seems there is no one to do this as there is no staff left at SkillsMatter

shar1z 2019-11-06T07:11:43.165200Z

hey there -I head up DevRel at AppsFlyer - happy to see how we can help make the conf happen. Happy to lend support. Let us know what you need.

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thomas 2019-11-06T08:42:30.167800Z

hmmm only 53 tickets sold for this year... no wonder Skillsmatter went bust.

thomas 2019-11-06T08:45:01.168300Z

El Reg has an article as well: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/05/skills_matter_goes_into_administration/

2019-11-06T08:51:10.168800Z

I'm normally happy when the reg savages someone. I'm hoping they don't this time

2019-11-06T08:51:34.169400Z

I heard that the VCs pulled the funding out after agreeing to it, but that is starting to feel like rumours. idk

jasonbell 2019-11-06T08:56:47.170200Z

@otfrom Wendy had posted the full story on Linkedin saying the VC had pulled out after agreeing.

thomas 2019-11-06T09:19:01.170700Z

that sucks indeed.

thomas 2019-11-06T09:19:05.170900Z

bastards

2019-11-06T09:41:05.171700Z

that is terrible

Matthew Gilliard 2019-11-06T10:43:09.175900Z

Hi 👋 Matthew here from Twilio. We were sponsors of the event, and don't have any real hope of getting that money back. But we can help with costs of venue/food if we find somewhere else to host it.

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dotemacs 2019-11-06T10:45:19.176500Z

Glad to hear it @matthew613

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Clément 2019-11-06T10:58:18.177300Z

Awesome @matthew613!

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:05:51.178Z

@salaun.clement did any of the speakers get back to you ?

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:06:19.178400Z

I’ve also created this Google Doc where we can put notes all in one place: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11WzJsVFrjIp4vQcfVweQXtXGi5lbJ6s9IRLjOvZo8zI/edit?usp=sharing

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Clément 2019-11-06T11:06:56.178900Z

Totally @dotemacs, the up to date list is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1flEvhRNLH6qbAGfdxdUNnaylnX-GK1fdNNMz9OndlBY/edit#gid=0

Clément 2019-11-06T11:07:08.179300Z

So far we have 5 speakers 🙂

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dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:13:34.179600Z

Great!

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:15:34.181900Z

So Twillio would be able to sponsor the venue, the pub where Lambd Ale was held. If we get a free venue, then the £ can go towards something else: filming, food/drink… To me it looks like we’ll have a place where we can hold this be it the pub above or some place else.

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:15:57.182700Z

5 speakers, with potential more coming because the event should be super cheap

Clément 2019-11-06T11:16:45.183500Z

Yeah exactly, the non-profit could even end up interesting more people than the paid event

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:17:10.183800Z

That’s what I’m hoping for too!

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:17:21.184100Z

I mean, we just have to get 53 people interested 🙂

Clément 2019-11-06T11:17:27.184300Z

Yep!

dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:18:50.186200Z

Personally, I’m leaning towards this pub, because the food and drink is there, plus it has the capacity for 130 people. Twillio is willing to put the money down to cover the venue costs. So that to me seems like the conf is going to be on!

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dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:21:04.187600Z

Does anybody want to reach out to any UK based companies that do Clojure to ask them for participation? Like uSwitch, Swirrl, Juxt…

thomas 2019-11-06T11:22:00.189Z

and if you need more speakers I am happy to prepare something... even if it is some sort of session for people new to clojure.... or just ramble for a random amount of time.

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2019-11-06T11:24:38.189400Z

we could make people pay extra to heckle...

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dotemacs 2019-11-06T11:32:51.189900Z

@otfrom will you be making an appearance at the conf ? 🙂

2019-11-06T11:33:51.190800Z

I'm not sure atm and if people pick up my suggestion I'm not sure I could afford it if @thomas was going to speak. If @jasonbell spoke I'd go bankrupt. 🙂

2019-11-06T11:34:00.191100Z

(apologies for the inside jokes)

jasonbell 2019-11-06T11:41:17.191600Z

Heckles are currency, you are aware of this @otfrom 🙂

2019-11-06T11:41:35.191900Z

is it a proof of work system? Heckle-coin?

jasonbell 2019-11-06T11:48:23.192400Z

Ask on Twitter, someone, somewhere will have done a proof-of-heckle system somewhere.

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2019-11-06T11:48:54.192900Z

but then the blockchainers will find me and my life won't be worth living as I'll be drowning in pyramid scams

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thomas 2019-11-06T12:15:23.194200Z

I'll offer my Heckling-as-a-Service for free!!!

Clément 2019-11-06T12:39:21.195Z

One more speaker, Karl Brodowsky is in too 😉

2019-11-06T12:41:24.195100Z

I think we're talking pay-to-heckle not heckle-as-a-service 😄

Matthew Gilliard 2019-11-06T12:41:40.195300Z

Pay what you think it's worth

dotemacs 2019-11-06T12:48:50.196Z

Nice

dotemacs 2019-11-06T12:50:02.197300Z

In theory, since this is not under SM any longer, and some speakers will pull out, maybe others wish to step forward and present? Yes, it’s a short notice, but this whole thing is short notice…

Clément 2019-11-06T13:01:12.198700Z

Yeah i think that would be possible too

danielneal 2019-11-06T13:02:15.199900Z

It would be good to keep it to a single day I think - feels like a smaller commitment. I love the idea of something low key and cosy in a pub.

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Clément 2019-11-06T13:03:01.200100Z

Good point @danieleneal

Clément 2019-11-06T13:04:09.200800Z

What would be the next step to make this happen now that we have some speakers, sponsors and a venue? (prospectively speaking, of course)

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:04:35.201400Z

Yes. instead of trying to replicate what was scheduled in December, given the circumstances, keep it to 1 day, a few talks, keep things alive - give time to get something else in place for next year

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:04:53.201800Z

I think the most important thing is the mingling and mixing and making connections

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:05:07.202200Z

more so than talks (although they are very valuable too!)

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dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:09:39.203400Z

I think the next thing is to get some committment, unfortunately, that means putting some money down to secure a venue - someone/thing has to stump up the cash. Once the venue is secure, then people will come.

dotemacs 2019-11-06T13:15:18.204400Z

Just for record, @cfeckardt is meeting somebody from http://talent.io today to discuss a free venue. Once we know the outcome of that, we can decide which venue it’s going to be exactly.

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danielneal 2019-11-06T13:16:08.205100Z

free venue means more money for ice cream!

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:21:53.206100Z

I have a concern over http://talent.io, they are a recruitment agency. I would be careful that they will want to see a list of attendees/email addresses for mail shots and leads.

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:25:56.207200Z

At the very least, a good GDPR policy of not sharing any personal information with 3rd parties, unless there is explicit consent given.

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Matthew Gilliard 2019-11-06T13:43:20.208100Z

We could look at booking the Microsoft Reactor space perhaps?

Matthew Gilliard 2019-11-06T13:46:07.210Z

I haven't used it but my colleages say it's good.

2019-11-06T13:46:08.210200Z

Are we looking to keep it on the same dates 2-3rd of December? I'm assuming people who are travelling bto London have their tickets and accommodation booked for then. It's also the most likely time all attendees are free.

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Clément 2019-11-06T13:48:04.210900Z

Yeah I think we should completely capitalize on that, possibly December 2nd only if we aim for a single day event

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practicalli-john 2019-11-06T13:52:15.212800Z

FYI. We have received an offer to use an 80 person venue if we wish to run the conference in January. It would be venue only and bring your own food (or organise a separate sponsor for food).

practicalli-john 2019-11-06T13:54:55.214200Z

RMT rail strikes may also be occurring on 2nd-3rd December https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-50307665 in some areas of Greater London

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:57:42.216200Z

I don't mind it being a non-food event, since there are plenty of eateries around in London

dharrigan 2019-11-06T13:57:47.216500Z

keeps the cost down too

Jcaw 2019-11-06T13:58:26.217200Z

Got a response from the the administrators: >As you may be aware, Skills Matter Limited was placed into Administration on 31 October 2019 and Mark Supperstone and Ben Woodthorpe were appointed Joint Administrators. > >As a result of the Administration certain events have had to be cancelled to date. > >Unfortunately I am unable provide confirmation whether the below event will proceed at this stage and I will be in a better position to inform you by close of business on Friday. I understand that you may need to make alternative arrangements and will endeavour to provide a response as soon as possible. > >Should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to contact me. > >Kind regards > >Evelyn (Emphasis mine)

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practicalli-john 2019-11-06T13:58:53.217400Z

I have emailed all confirmed speakers about the SkillsMatter company going into administration and have highlighted that the community is discussing a replacement conference in this channel.

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thomas 2019-11-06T14:09:41.219200Z

I don't mind it being non-food either.... but the dates are kinda more important to me... I wouldn't go a second time to LDN again in such a short period.

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Matthew Gilliard 2019-11-06T14:11:26.219300Z

Checked. It's busy on Dec 2/3

2019-11-06T14:36:40.219900Z

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Dates staying the same is important.

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dharrigan 2019-11-06T14:38:05.220400Z

Would a date in January be more suitable?

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thomas 2019-11-06T14:57:45.220800Z

not for me

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dharrigan 2019-11-06T15:02:20.221700Z

kewl, just guaging options 😉

Clément 2019-11-06T15:30:22.222500Z

Thanks for the update! It's good that we at least have a working communication channel with the admnistrator 🙂

Jcaw 2019-11-06T17:56:31.223600Z

No worries. I'll pass on any updates.

flefik 2019-11-06T18:54:03.224500Z

The guy has postponed our chat for tomorrow so no update from me tonight :(

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dotemacs 2019-11-06T23:18:30.228600Z

Cognitect wish to help out too https://twitter.com/jgehtland/status/1192218809635090434

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