Clojurians Log v2

There’s this site for looking up venues: https://www.tagvenue.com/uk/search/conference?longitude_from=-0.248565673828125&longitude_to=0.04669189453125&latitude_from=51.37888824732677&latitude_to=51.634392116224596&center_latitude=51.506819276260586&center_longitude=-0.1009368896484375&form_timestamp=1573286841&getAllRoomsPositions=true&hideRoomsData=false&items_per_page=36&map_zoom=11&people=100&room_features_1_time_limit=35&date=02%2F12%2F2019&time_from=&time_to=&room_layout=0&min_price=0&max_price=2000&neighbourhood=London&page=1&room_space=&room_space_unit=sqm&room_tag=conference&supervenues_only=false&iso_country_code=GB if nothing else, it at least gives us indication about possible options.

I’ve created a page for 100 tickets on Eventbrite, don’t publish it anywhere just yet, this is just to see who would commit and come to the conf: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/clojure-conference-london-clojurex-revival-tickets-81016794413 Obviously this is just for this channel. The info about the event doesn’t have the venue details, but once we have a venue confirmed, we can update it.

Cool! Maybe we should avoid mentioning clojureX explicitly (or I’m just paranoid)

A check with the administrators to see if there is any "ownership" over the name?

I don't think there could be, since CodeNode/Skillsmater didn't come up with the name?

Even if we are free to use it, should it be connected (in the long term?) It is definitely connected this time.

"ClojureY - the event formerly known as Clojure eXchange" ?

That sounds good to me

I’ve collected the following so far: Clojure-Ldn Clojure-London Clojurians Conference ClojureY (credit AlexMiller) Clojure Community Exchange 2019 (credit Clément) Cloju Re-X (credit flefik)

I like ClojureY, as successor to “X” and the link to the Y-combinator. It is short and projects well into a logo (if ever we want one). Actually, Y is sorta λ in reverse.

So even Clojure-λ or Cλojure.

Thinking of the reverse “y”, a SEO & logo-ready version would be Cλojure

has there been any discussion as to how much the tickets for the community conf are going to be?

What about • parens.london (seeing as the domain is available) • parens conf

• in-ns ‘london

• defconf.london

• fnconf - fnconf.london

• keeping it 🇬🇧: sorted-conf

I wouldn't say it's the same event

I'd explicitly say it's a replacement

That’s why we’re coming up with a different name for it

What I mean is, I wouldn't say "the event formally known as ClojureX"

Agree with the sentiment above. It’s definitely starting as a replacement for the first year, but the organization starts from a completely different mindset (e.g. free conf without link to a profit organization apart from sponsors). A little bit like that first Euroclojure in London.

Summary so far (no specific order) ClojureY (credits AlexMiller) Clojure Community Exchange 2019 (credit Clément) Cloju Re-X (credit flefik) Cλojure (credits reborg) Clojure-Ldn (credits reborg) Clojure-London (credits reborg) Clojurians Conference (credits reborg) parens.london (credits dotemacs) parens conf (credits dotemacs) in-ns ’london (credits dotemacs) defconf.london (credits dotemacs) fnconf - fnconf.london (credits dotemacs) sorted-conf (credits dotemacs)

With four companies willing to help with the cost we could aim to go for free, or £1/5 as to have a minimal attendance commitment?

If we’re going for re-use the suffix ‘X’, maybe we can go for: cloju:t-rex: that way we can register the emoji domain cloju:t-rex:.ws

The domain is available: https://xn--i-7iq.ws/emojidomain/cloju%F0%9F%A6%96

Interesting, but I’d probably keep it simple. So far, my fav is clojureY (it can read both “clojurey” or “clojure-y”, domain available, SEO friendly, short, type fast, mnemonic etc.)

clojureλ - with the ‘λ’ can be registered also https://xn--i-7iq.ws/emojidomain/clojure%CE%BB

You know ‘λ’ is a letter ‘l’, so why not that suggestion of yours @reborg of Cλojure ? The domain for that is also available, but with a TLD of .ws: https://xn--i-7iq.ws/emojidomain/c%CE%BBojure

And clojure.london domain is also available

I’m hoping for £ nil

Bit scared of the emoji thing (for portability, a github repo for example). But it could be full name “clojure-lambda” (for any portability) and Cλojure/Clojureλ as logo brand etc.

Maybe just go for clojure.london as the domain, github repo… but the logo can be: Cλojure λondon

nice

Or pedantically Cλojure Λondon 😁

But lowercase lambda is the best, for the strong relationship with the calculus

It should be free IMHO. There are people who actually paid a ticket for this and they don’t know when they are going to see their money back. The attendance commitment metric is useful, but given we can afford a venue for 150-200 I don’t think we risk overcrowding. The eventbrite page also has a top limit of 100 which is probably good to start with.

I thought about "ReClojure"

Clojure.london is a good brand to go forward with

If it is free, make sure the original attendees' spaces are reserved

fair point

Could just call it "Cλojure" and pronounce it "lambda con". Surprisingly, there's Google space for that.

so while the 100 eventbrite tickets are “on sale” we can account for 75 additional people who could join anyway (it looks like that list is nowhere available unfortunately)

there’s a known labdaconf tho, which is very close

Ah damn

There is probably enough choice to go for a poll to pick the name for the conf. The result should at least give an orientation toward 2-3 choices. If more ideas are coming in (and time permitting) we can add them to the list and recast votes: https://doodle.com/poll/7ths9keqxrqiwnyw

What about "The Immutable Conference" :face_with_cowboy_hat:

On our side, I guess people with a ticket will keep an eye on any news regarding the conf, including our effort as soon as we are ready to push things live. If we can’t get to them, hopefully they’ll get to us.

Immortal… it does not want to die :)

If they notify attendees, they should at least be willing to put up a poster on the day, “Alternative conference happening at place XYZ”

Re ticket situation, that’s why I asked, I got a ticket via a work scheme, and getting that refunded and redirected to alternative conference will likely take ages if at all

It’s a bit of a shame it’s such a short notice, but skillsmatter people couldn’t have helped it

That would be nice. But I’m not sure what’s going on at SM these days, if there are people working at all and if the administrator is interested in shutting down things gradually.

They are searching for new investors/owners and if any they’ll need to decide what to do with the assets. Maybe every conf will be up and running next year, but unlikely this December

sorry to hear @lady3janepl and like you others in the same situation.

Are you sure you want to focus this as London? It's often complained that London is like a black hole that sucks all into it. After all, we don't have Clojure Paris, or Clojure Berlin

Having London sorta is "elitist"

Fair point

(not= London clojurists-in-the-uk)

Hopefully this conf could be hosted in Bristol (or anywhere else UK) next year. It’s true that ClojureD is always in Berlin, Dutch Clj Days in Amsterdam etc.

True true, so I would perfer something non-londony in the name

and I really like that idea of a moving conference

London, Bristol, Glasgow, Scunthorpe 🙂

Cool, so perhaps names without london in it

Ah, the age old problem of naming things - one of the most difficult things to do in programming 🙂

right, hopefully nothing to cache with this conference

I quite like the Clojure Community Exchange name

http://cce2019.org/com/net etc.. are all free

and cce2020 etc..

not sure how sustainable that is however.

cce.dev is free

not bad, for me clojureY remains more catchy

that's good too

how about a variant of reClojure as re:Clojure

added the option. How is that playing with urls?

@dharrigan I was also thinking of breaking it up like that

REPL conf?

I agree with the sentiment about not wanting it to be perceived as london centric, however when it’s in Bristol it could be Clojure-Bristol and so on. Could be a series of conferences over the years visiting different cities. Interestingly the domain http://clojure.uk is available… that could be the parent, e.g http://bristol.clojure.uk, just thinking aloud…