community-development

https://github.com/clojurians/community-development
jethroksy 2016-02-07T01:52:33.000121Z

I personally wouldn't like to see the community split between any more services

jethroksy 2016-02-07T01:52:57.000122Z

Perhaps it would do good to conduct a survey to see where the majority vote lies at

jethroksy 2016-02-07T01:53:22.000123Z

Braid would probably continue regardless of whether clojurians are going to adopt it

meow 2016-02-07T03:53:37.000124Z

Correct, Braid is happening regardless.

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:21:36.000125Z

I agree, I don’t think we should split if possible.

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:21:52.000126Z

@meow: Any idea when Braid might become usable for Clojurians?

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:25:00.000127Z

@cfleming: currently it's somewhat functional, but definitely lacks the polish for mass adoption

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:25:47.000128Z

@meow is proposing a talk at clojurewest on braid, hopefully to onboard more people to help with development/testing

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:26:42.000129Z

@jethroksy: Right, I’ve used it a bit, it’s definitely a long way from a Slack replacement.

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:29:13.000130Z

my main concern is getting people used to the braid style of chat

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:29:35.000131Z

I agree

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:29:45.000132Z

in order for it to be successful everyone must be familiar with it, if not chaos would ensue

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:29:51.000133Z

I don’t see it being workable for something this size, at least right now.

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:30:11.000134Z

I know they’re aware of the issue and are trying to come up with something.

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:30:37.000135Z

But it seems better for a small team right now, not 500 people in a single room

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:30:41.000136Z

they've become too used to the braid system, and need more people to provide feedback on "first-use" experience

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:31:16.000137Z

then comes the problem of terminology...

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:31:22.000138Z

I don't think there are "rooms" in braid

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:31:40.000139Z

There aren’t, so we have 4800 people in one room :simple_smile:

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:32:06.000140Z

isn't that the same thing as in Slack?

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:32:17.000141Z

perhaps they'd all be subscribed to the general tag

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:32:28.000142Z

but otherwise they'll receive only what they want to

cfleming 2016-02-07T08:32:32.000143Z

Well, I guess there are 4800 people in #general, but.. right

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:33:45.000144Z

I welcome the inbox idea

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:33:55.000145Z

feels like Mailbox for gmail, which I enjoyed for a while

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:34:30.000146Z

but this is dependent on people not necroing old threads

jethroksy 2016-02-07T08:35:11.000147Z

either the control logic in the app has to be complex enough to handle all these cases, or the users have to be intelligent enough to know how braid works

rafd 2016-02-07T11:52:50.000148Z

re: necroing in Braid, there will be UI to indicate old threads and to warn user that they are necroing

rafd 2016-02-07T11:55:16.000149Z

re: # of people... there's only ever 3-5 people actively participating in a room at any given time (many lurkers)... I image more would actively participate in Braid b/c conversations are less time-sensitive than here

rafd 2016-02-07T11:57:50.000150Z

re: "the Braid model" being different... I am willing to add a more traditional-looking mode that could be the default... (with a single level of threading, so it would look similar to Facebook comments)

meow 2016-02-07T13:41:31.000153Z

Braid Alpha will be released on April 15.