community-development

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pavlosmelissinos 2021-03-23T17:45:08.010600Z

I was afk for the day and when I came back I couldn't even follow #beginners because there were 7-8 posts, each several screens long. I demand a refund! Jokes aside, do you think it would be within the interests of the community to make stronger suggestions regarding pasting blocks of code/text? Spam can be a nuisance but on the other hand community rules tend to drive newcomers away sometimes πŸ™‚

jumar 2021-03-24T15:25:59.020200Z

Yes, I know it’s hard- it’s quite difficult to do in a small company and more so in a large community

2021-03-23T17:46:40.010800Z

I think it is common for individuals to repond (in a thread) to people sending such messages asking them to please post long messages within a reply thread, or send a link to code on Github or other public places.

2021-03-23T17:46:58.011Z

Most people get the idea if an individual points it out to them.

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2021-03-23T17:49:10.011200Z

I've just replied in a thread to two recent "offenders"

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pavlosmelissinos 2021-03-23T17:56:36.011500Z

You're right. I think I'll follow your example in the future, thanks πŸ™‚

seancorfield 2021-03-23T17:57:00.011700Z

@pavlos I agree it is frustrating when a few folks (nearly always beginners) post large slabs of text into a channel, instead of using pastebin or something similar and just providing a link. I think the β€œculprits” were asked to use code snippets in future.

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pez 2021-03-23T18:12:39.012200Z

I love how you always have the sensible suggestions, @andy.fingerhut. ❀️

2021-03-23T18:14:19.012400Z

I try πŸ˜‰. From the perspective of a beginner, they are learning the ropes not just of Clojure, but sometimes also of Slack and this Slack community in particular. Polite requests for changes in how they share messages are usually followed. If they aren't, then maybe bringing in a Slack admin for more 'weight' is justified.

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2021-03-23T18:14:41.012600Z

Most people are only too happy to learn the polite interaction mechanisms that are customary in an on-line community, if you point it out to them.

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dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:40:32.013300Z

It's quite common in irc channels to see things like Don't paste: use <https://gist.github.com/> in the channel description. Do you think that might be an idea to add to slack channels?

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:41:05.013500Z

(not saying github is what could be used, simply that it's common to see services such as these in the channel topic)

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:41:54.013700Z

Maybe something like "If pasting over 5 lines, we suggest blah blah...". ?

2021-03-23T20:42:37.014100Z

I mean, we could. But the channel topic for #beginners already spans 3 lines in the Web UI, and I have to hover to see it all, and one of them is a gist link to resources helpful for beginners. How often do people read those? Not sure.

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:43:03.014300Z

Agreed. Yet, at least it's there and people will become familiar with them over time?

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:43:48.014500Z

Which reminds me, the topic in #clojure is way wrong πŸ™‚

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:43:55.014700Z

It seems to be missing text πŸ™‚

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:50:19.014900Z

And most people don’t read the topic or channel description anyway… 😞

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:55:26.015100Z

@dharrigan it says β€œhttp://clojure.org/ Searchable message archives are at https://clojurians-log.clojureverse.org/”

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:55:59.015300Z

This is what I see:

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:56:07.015500Z

I just removed the two newlines. I think that helps.

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:56:13.015700Z

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:56:37.016100Z

At yes

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:56:37.016300Z

Mouseover it β€” the text is all there.

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:56:39.016500Z

much better

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:56:45.016700Z

with the two newlines removed

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:57:03.016900Z

I would never think to hover over the topic

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:57:09.017100Z

irc habits and all πŸ™‚

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:57:18.017300Z

The problem is β€œanyone” can change channel topics and descriptions so we’re kind of at the mercy of anyone who clicks into them and messes them up.

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:57:34.017500Z

boo slack boo πŸ™‚

seancorfield 2021-03-23T20:57:54.017700Z

We should all move to Zulip amirite? πŸ™‚

dharrigan 2021-03-23T20:59:38.017900Z

no comment πŸ™‚