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does anybody else consistently see nil causes on exceptions thrown during startup? i.e., I see component's wrapped exception but can't find the underlying so I don't know what actually went wrong

based on this code that seems impossible, but I see this basically all the time https://github.com/stuartsierra/component/blob/component-0.3.1/src/com/stuartsierra/component.cljc#L116

do you have that jvm option turned off where it sometimes omits stracktraces?

-XX:-OmitStackTraceInFastThrow

turns it off

but no, I don't think I've seen that, I might also look at however the exception is being reported (logging, some exception pretty printer) some of those do terrible things

It's not missing just a stacktrace but the whole throwable. I can get the ex-info thrown by component and call getCause and it's nil

I guess I'll try debugging it next time since apparently I'm the crazy one