Clojurians Log v2

in spacemacs how in the world do you ever get clj-refactor and refactor-nrepl to stay in synch?

I know I'll get used to spacemacs, and I used emacs for several years back in the day, but boy is it a pain to get a new editor set up. I can't wait to actually be productive.

Is colin in this slack channel?

has anyone seen him *?

cfleming?

no I don't think he's in here (yet)

/drag-kicking-and-screaming

hahahahahahaha

thanks

cfleming was in ClojureScript a minute ago

@arrdem:

markstang: yeah I chased him in here

our long national nightmare is over, @cfleming is here

Tadaaa

👋

hahahahahahahahaha

amazing

@cfleming: how difficult would it be to add release notes to the plugin window when it updates? Or does it already provide them and I haven’t noticed?

danielcompton: It doesn't, unfortunately the plugin update process I'm using isn't great. There's a better way of doing it I'd like to switch to but it's very buggy.

Is it using RSS?

danielcompton: Lots of boring gory detail at https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-137274

ah, hence why there’s different IntelliJ version tracks as well

danielcompton: No, it's IntelliJ's proprietary format - it includes things like the version that the plugin is valid for etc

danielcompton: Yeah, I'd dearly love to consolidate that.

> Format won't change. download-url was always there, it wasn't documented though.

undocumented but required elements are the worst

You wouldn't believe the amount of time I've spent debugging that code to see which elements are missing in my XML

I just gave up in the end - the weird thing is it seems to work even though she says it shouldn't. I've been meaning to debug further to see why but haven't got around to it

I can see why it would be low on the priority list

Well, it's higher than you'd think - getting people to remember to update their plugin repo URL when they upgrade IntelliJ is a mission.

Mmm

With the new Java interop, will it let me get Javadocs on multi arity Java methods?

Yup

One of the advantages of this is that the method instances are resolved correctly, so find usages etc will work for the correct overload.

Constructors are now also resolved correctly - previously they all resolved to the class.

This change has been a total bear in the end, but it's awesome.

Interop is much nicer

Which is selfishly good for me because I do it all day.

Is there a rough release date planned?

ah, just saw "next week or so"

danielcompton: Hopefully within the next week or so - yeah.

danielcompton: It also contains the infrastructure needed for context-sensitive completion that you were asking for.

Not sure how many will be implemented in this release but at least it'll be easy to add

what full blown IDE do you guys use for Java stuff?

@arrdem: Cursive

nah IntelliJ

yeah I think I'm gonna meander slowly in cursive's direction while bbatsov isn't watching

as a student you can get a free Ultimate Edition license too, they should really advertise that more

orly

because fuck $500

So when you’re working on your JSP pages at Factual you can have editor support

One of those words is on the banned list and it’s not orly

It’s only $500 for a company, individaul devs are $160

meh

arrdem: Best $160 you’ll ever spend.

arrdem: But for a lot of Java work the community edition is fine - it has Java, Maven, Ant, XML, all that

arrdem: It’s only the enterprise stuff you have to pay for. You then get Python + Ruby etc support if you care about that too.

arrdem: PHP too, which I know you love

intellij + cursive set up

kool aid incomming

cfleming: FITE ME

cfleming: so if I write a really nice propaganda blog post can I get a free license? 😛

arrdem: We’ll consider all applications 😛

Is there a good way to just turn off all formatting since I'm editing Core which is evil?

or is //@formatter:off at the top of a file the best I can do

arrdem: You’re talking about Java formatting?

arrdem: I’m not sure actually. I keep meaning to sit down and make a formatter style to match it. I should just ask Rich for his, actually, since he uses IntelliJ

wait really

beer says Rich has all formatting off

deliverable at next con

I’m not sure you can even do that

then how is all of core so fsckd

But I’ll take the bet just because I want the beer

Even if I’m paying for it

I'll take it out of my Cursive purchase 😛

I’ll probably have free licenses for non-commercial use anyway, so you can freeload until you’re at Factual :simple_smile:

Although that’s TBD, but I think so