hi @bhauman yes that’s what I was doing
but I wanted to have a all-in-one experience so that no additional server is required
actually loading the extra server when the ring handler code is loaded works OK
and the ring handler is a noop
but of course it is a hack
so no worries
this is the code FYI
https://github.com/raymcdermott/reptile-tongue/blob/master/src/reptile/tongue/server.clj