Clojurians Log v2

I'd like to use the Hoplon model to develop mobile apps - I really really like it more than React/Native. I looked into the best ways to do this and have some thoughts: 1. Transpile Clojure to Dart and use Flutter (really involved process, might create weird interactions since Flutter itself has some kind of reactivity (though I think they can coexist). Note that Flutter also has a web version https://flutter.dev/web 2. Use Gluon Mobile (https://gluonhq.com/products/mobile/javafxports/) which is interesting since it turns out GraalVM is a JVM running on iOS and Android and it can run Clojure (like all good JVMs do). So then I'd just have to rewrite/adapt HLisp to render JavaFX mobile elements instead of HTML css etc. Javelin and Castra should work the same way 3. Compile Clojure to ObjC/ Swift for iOS, and to... Java? Just deploy? for Android. For iOS it Seems like a huge endeavor. Any other thoughts on how to approach this? My goal is to create a web (or desktop) visual editor similar to http://Bubble.is but for mobile. The user draws the UI in an HTML page and when they deploy to iOS or Android the UI looks the exact same way.

Another, somewhat related question, that I could not figure out from watching videos and reading documentation: what happens when a cell triggers an update? Is the dom node and everything below it just rebuilt? I know that for some items just the innerHTML is changed

@geo.ciobanu this is a loaded question, regarding the mobile development, you can choose any of the methods, there is already a hoplonfx in the works for desktop, I imagine this would work on mobile too

I personally think phonegap would be easiest since hoplon is a html/js lib - progressive apps would be the way to go IMO

When a cell is changed the attribute is updated, whatever that attribute does is then applied to the DOM object

Thank you @flyboarder! Didn't mean to make it a loaded question, just want to know what options exist to use the Hoplon paradigm on mobile 🙂 This is a personal preference but I want to generate native code - not a huge fan of webviews and even of the RN adapter. Flutter is ok because although it has its own rendering engine it's got native-like performance. Looking at HoplonFx now. The only thing is, how does one create apps that look like the native ones? JavaFx does not have iOS/Android specific component libraries so any app developed based on it will look very Java like.

Yeah I’m not sure what libraries are available for java mobile stuff, but if you find something you like we can help make it hoplon compatible!

@geo.ciobanu ^

@flyboarder I think I found 2: https://www.codenameone.com/ and Guon Glisten https://gluonhq.com/category/gluon-mobile/glisten/. Although Glisten doesn't seem to have lots of documentation (or at least not well advertised) the repo for it seems to be kept up to date: https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.gluonhq/charm-glisten?repo=gluonhq-releases

Yep looks like it

I need to wrap my head around hoplonfx and how it would work with these component libraries - thank for helping me so far, I'll get back with some questions/ideas once I clarify it for myself 🙂