The :hoplon: ClojureScript Web Framework - http://hoplon.io/

https://clojureverse.org/t/perils-of-accidental-complexity-in-re-frame/6254/6 some interesting criticism of re-frame that may or may not be applicable to hoplon


(i think it depends on which framework you choose to make out of hoplon πŸ˜† )

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:44:18.326400Z

I already disagree with the summary πŸ˜†


oh wait, i linked to the wrong thing, meant to link to start of thread


@flyboarder btw how's it going man?

onetom 2020-07-25T19:18:22.337600Z

hello guys! πŸ™‚ my daughter is an ipad "user" since she was less than a year old. she has already started interacting with it by touching before she was 2 years old. she is almost 6 years old now and i think she turned out well so far. she is playing simple games on it. drawing a lot with the paper app, but even more on actual paper. watches cartoons from netflix (deleted the utube app because of elsagate-like shit is just too easy to access). she regularly reviews photos on it, which are synced from my phone. uses the sample editor to record her singing in garage band. also connects her midi keyboard to garage band. teaches other kids how to use it...

onetom 2020-07-25T19:21:43.337800Z

but apart from that she rides the scooter since we was ~3 yrs old. started in-line roller skating and swimming about a year ago. spends a lot of time in our little above-ground pool either alone or with her friends. plays with the sand, shells and the dogs on the beach maybe 1-2 times a week. so i think we could strike a good balance between letting her interact with both the virtual and the physical world. so far...

onetom 2020-07-25T19:26:10.338Z

and she started to ask me a few months ago to read bed-time stories to her. also asks me regularly to put on some music for the past year. im feeding her everything possible, from baroque classics to rock opera, folk and electronic. she listens to most of it in awe πŸ™‚

onetom 2020-07-25T19:29:29.338200Z

2 months ago she was captivated by the kirov ballet for 20 minutes. she watched it like as if she would need to take an exam from it afterwards πŸ™‚ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rJoB7y6Ncs

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:48:16.327500Z

really good actually, how are things on your end?


weirdly great


good for us :thumbsup:

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:49:09.328100Z

good to hear! seems some people in tech are actually making out pretty well, just hope everyone stays safe!


i forget,were you mostly WFH before also?

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:50:21.328500Z


flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:50:57.328700Z

we also use a co-working space, which has been empty, so private offices πŸ˜›


cool. yeah being WFH helped, altho we'd just moved to a new place and it's gonna be a long time before we can meet new friends 😐

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:51:19.329100Z

yeah how did the move go?


it was last year so it was fine, but we were just starting to get settled when this all went down

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:53:41.329500Z

yeah, thats rough - fam doing well tho?

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:53:55.329700Z

im sure they are probably bored


hanging in there


yeah unfortunately my daughter is 4 and hanging out with kids is what she really needs at her stage


but she's gotten into legos, which has been awesome

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:55:56.330500Z

yeah, my nephew is also 4 and obsessed with lego


their imagination carries them through

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:56:49.330900Z

have you seen the Lego Playgrounds app?


i have not

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:57:10.331300Z

she might be too young for sticking an iPad in front of her but

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:57:21.331500Z

Lego AR for kids

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:58:52.332100Z

Im personally really mixed about kids and tech, but there is huge opportunity for fun based learning and education

flyboarder 2020-07-21T16:59:48.332300Z

My thing is that behaviour reinforcement comes from them watching adults, which they don’t get with tech


that looks very cool, will definitely check it out


thanks for the pointer