Clojurians Log v2

@dustingetz @khardenstine Is slack the best place for feedback or do you prefer a github issue?

@alex-eberts Slack works (here in the channel where logbot sees it), or if you'd like markdown, you can make a fiddle in the tank

first off, I think what you've created in hyperfiddle is super cool so please take the following comments in that light. 🙂

I've been working through the tutorial and while it's a good intro to how to do the basics, I feel like I'm missing a high-level understanding of what the different component pieces are and how they relate to datomic.

There's a ton of new concepts (which is great because it shows how innovative Hyperfiddle is) but at least for me personally, I feel like I need a few more anchors to other well-known concepts to be able to grasp the abstractions that form the foundation of hyperfiddle.

This is probably made worse by the fact that I'm a beginner datomic user so if HF is targeted to more experienced Datomic folks then disregard the above 🙂

Minor quibbles: Tank and Tutorial are diverging. The tutorial shows you interacting with dustingetz.seattle/neighborhood but that name doesn't appear in tank (as far as I can tell). I may be looking in the wrong spot.

Minor quibble #2: after creating a new HF in tank it seems to have disappeared (HF name :alexeberts/todo). Not sure if that was standard garbage collection or because I started the tutorial on Tues and then picked it up again on Wed. Either way, it lead to errors that were difficult to figure out.

Thanks Alex for the excellent feedback

Re #2, do you recall ever explicitly clicking transact?

No, I didn't transact it to tank... I saw a note about needing to have permission to transact to tank and since I saw my HF in the tank list I figured that it was staged and I could continue using it like a git working dir...

What browser? It was stored in localStorage and localStorage somehow got cleared

Version 69.0.3497.100 (Official Build) (64-bit) on Mac

Are you using incognito tabs or ad blockers or anything like that? Or maybe you were logged out and now you're logged in, or something?

it's possible - I wasn't using an incognito tab but I do have AdBlock installed. I will keep my eyes open to see if it happens again and, if so, what caused it.

re: high-level overview - I'm taking some notes as a work through the tutorial. I will send them to you once I'm done to see if that might be a good starting point for a "concepts overview"-type document.

That would be amazingly helpful

I am happy to video chat with you as well if you feel up for it

Really like what you've done with HF BTW - it makes so much sense to be able to incrementally see the results of queries and derive views from it.

Makes me think "why haven't we been doing this all along?"

Very happy to do a vid conf at some point. If you want the perspective of a totally new user then I'm free sometime tomorrow. If you want to chat once I have a better handle on things then next week would be great.

Lets do tomorrow, what time?

I'm in Vancouver. Anytime after 10am PST works for me.

10am PST would be perfect

Great - could you send me an email with a link to the vid conf service you want to use? alex (dot) eberts (at) http://gmail.com

Will do right now looking forward to talking!

sound great - me too!