Job hunting, interview process and anything related to the experience of a job writing the Clojure language.
Kanister 2019-07-09T12:41:34.283300Z

What to expect in terms of salary for a senior developer with 2 years of commercial Clojure experience? What amount of cash would you ask?

Conor 2019-07-09T12:42:52.284200Z

The question seems impossible to answer without more context? It can vary wildly by country, etc.

Kanister 2019-07-09T12:44:33.285Z

ok. this is for remote Clojure positions.I am in east Europe.

Kanister 2019-07-09T12:46:28.286100Z

just tell what's on your first mind. Of course it is hard to say but what range? 20-40 $/h or something like this?

Conor 2019-07-09T12:48:53.287900Z

Assuming you are an experienced developer who also has Clojure experience (which is what I think you've written above), I would expect something about £500-600/day if you were in the UK

Conor 2019-07-09T12:49:25.288600Z

But I don't know enough about the market in eastern Europe to say what multiplier applies there 🙂

Kanister 2019-07-09T12:54:00.289200Z

anyone working remotely could share? 😉

mpenet 2019-07-09T12:57:08.290600Z

Hard to say with the info you give. ex: 2 years experience doing what (writing simulations for NASA or doing ETL on csv files is not going to "rank" the same) and what kind of job are you answering to

mpenet 2019-07-09T12:58:00.291500Z

Then your costs will matter and that's highly dependent on location (tax system & accounting etc)

mpenet 2019-07-09T12:58:56.292500Z

Try to find somebody else doing something similar from where you are (clojure or something else)

Kanister 2019-07-09T13:01:37.294100Z

I was doing 2 years of Clojure in backend and frontend. and now offered some backend work in data heavy portal in Germany.

seancorfield 2019-07-09T17:35:56.295400Z

It will vary wildly by industry and also based on the location of the company who hires you. Some companies pay "local" rates (local to them), no matter where the remote person is, some companies pay rates according to where the remote person is.

seancorfield 2019-07-09T17:39:41.298100Z

I've worked remotely for a over a decade. For some of that I was an independent consultant and charged what the market would bear for wherever my clients were. Mostly I've been salaried (full-time) -- and essentially paid somewhere between "local-to-company" and "local-to-me" rates (my current employer is based on the West Coast and so am I so that's not such a huge range).

seancorfield 2019-07-09T17:40:26.298800Z

^ @kurva It will also depend on what other experience you have, of course. Two years of production Clojure + N years of production "other stuff"...?

Kanister 2019-07-09T18:32:06.299300Z

@seancorfield any numbers at all?

Kanister 2019-07-09T18:32:56.300400Z

how would you investigate for rates?

seancorfield 2019-07-09T18:33:27.300900Z

@kurva See my question about your experience above.

Kanister 2019-07-09T18:33:52.301300Z

8 years of java and android.

seancorfield 2019-07-09T18:34:31.302Z

Then look around at your job market for comparable roles and see what they're paying. There are many salary/rate comparison websites out there.

seancorfield 2019-07-09T18:34:57.302500Z

The numbers for my area -- and for my company's area -- are going to be radically different to yours I suspect.

seancorfield 2019-07-09T18:36:26.303900Z

Also, again as I noted, much will depend on whether the German company pays local rates to everyone regardless of location or pays rates dependent on the employee's location. Also, contract vs salary tends to be very different, and very dependent on location/employment laws etc.