jobs-discuss

Job hunting, interview process and anything related to the experience of a job writing the Clojure language.
lispers-anonymous 2020-01-23T03:00:14.004500Z

That's what I settled on. Just noticed I ignored all that other stuff above. I live in a mid-sized city in the south (US). Standard contractor rates for other companies that do C#/js/java/vb development is between 40-50$ an hour. Negotiations have started and i believe I will end up with more than the standard rates for other dev in my city. I'm happy with it as it will be the most I've ever made as a full time employee. I just have to figure out how to get health insurance and other benefits that I used to get as a full time employee

kwladyka 2020-01-23T09:31:49.000100Z

Hmm you mean US rate for people who live in US is 40-50$? I expected it to be much higher hmm

kwladyka 2020-01-23T09:32:37.000300Z

Here I can’t help too much, because I don’t live in US

lispers-anonymous 2020-01-23T14:20:55.001600Z

In my city. In a place like new york or California it's going to be much higher.

ag 2020-01-23T19:40:00.003Z

The rate still feels very low, you may end up having it rough after paying taxes.

kwladyka 2020-01-23T20:20:23.003200Z

So what is the rate for people living in US from your experience? I know it depends where. I hear different opinions.

ag 2020-01-23T20:23:39.003400Z

Usually you'd take a full-time yearly rate and divide the number by 2080 (estimated number of work hours in a year)

ag 2020-01-23T20:25:49.003600Z

That's the absolute minimum you should charge per hour.

ag 2020-01-23T20:26:28.003800Z

@dannyfreeman you should be charging at least $70/h

kwladyka 2020-01-23T20:26:38.004Z

that is what I was thinking about it, but I hear opinion rate and salary in US are not really counted at the same level

kwladyka 2020-01-23T20:27:30.004200Z

yeah, this is different story for example for me, because I live outside US.

lispers-anonymous 2020-01-23T20:30:35.004400Z

$70/hour is an extremely high rate for my city where the average software engineer job is a lot lower than that (like 50-60k per year). I believe I'm going to get about 60/65 per hour which is a really nice compromise for me.

kwladyka 2020-01-23T20:34:18.007Z

Can you share your story how did you get a remote Clojure / ClojureScript job with company inside US while you live outside US? My story is simple: all companies refuse to hire me, because I live outside US. But one day CEO of company X found me on linkedin and he just wanted me because of my experience, so it was this one time when things happen very easy. What is your story? Share also if you are still looking.

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victorb 2020-01-27T10:38:21.020800Z

I've done this in the past, not neccessarly a Clojure / ClojureScript job (although, right before I stopped working for the company, I did write Clojure during the daytime for that job). The way it happened was that I found their open source code interesting and started contributing in my free time. After a while, they were hiring remote position (in fact, entire company was remote) and I applied, and got the position

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victorb 2020-01-27T10:38:48.021Z

let me know if you have any specific questions. This is one of those things (just as you acknowledge) is very depending on the context/job/company

kwladyka 2020-01-27T16:24:15.021700Z

Are you working on B2B agreement?

kwladyka 2020-01-27T16:27:19.021900Z

In last month after deeper research the topic I have this impression to find a remote job in US contractor can’t look a job as contractor, but as 1 person Agency. But this is something not common in US so just thinking how to go deeper into the topic. Because this is also not a freelancer. People in US don’t hire contractors outside US and have different definition of this word, than people in EU. All in all my conclusion was to promote myself as 1 person Agency / consultant or something like that instead of contractor. But I would like to hear other stories to get right conclusion.

victorb 2020-01-29T12:07:23.022300Z

@kwladyka basically, I had my own Freelancer company in Spain (called Autonomo) that was doing invoices to the american company. I'm not sure what they called the arrangement on their side, probably contractor or something similar