Job hunting, interview process and anything related to the experience of a job writing the Clojure language.
dominicm 2020-04-15T15:24:20.049200Z

@seancorfield I couldn't find this in the zulip / clojurians-log record. I was hoping you could take us through how you use your interview.pdf that's pinned in this channel? The topics list is really useful, but some of the pieces I'm not sure how I'd approach for example. Is it more of a tickbox of conversation topics?

seancorfield 2020-04-15T15:57:45.052600Z

Sure. It's mostly a memory aid for making sure I cover topics in an interview but it's also an ordered guide. I start at the top right and work my way down that side. I drill into the branches if a) the candidate is enthusiastic about a topic or b) they are very reticent. Once I get down the right hand side (mostly "soft" skills stuff), I move to the top left and work my way down that side (more technical/process skills stuff). I skip any topic they've already covered. I print out a fresh map for each candidate and make brief notes around the edge of the page.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T15:59:02.053500Z

The "conflict resolution" branch tends to come up in the "worst project" area but it's there as a reminder to make sure it's covered if they haven't mentioned it elsewhere.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:00:59.055200Z

Overall, it was written as a general guide, not specific to any particular programming language, so you have to play it by ear somewhat if you're interviewing for a senior FP role and you're only interested in FP, for example, or if you're interviewing for, say, a scrum master, or an ops role -- anything really specialized.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:03:20.056700Z

Prior to the interview, I'll also use the map as a guide for highlighting things on their resume/CV that I want to dig into during the interview -- I may highlight parts of the resume or add "pre-notes" to their map, and use both side-by-side.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:05:21.058500Z

I try to couch all of it in "tell me about ..." open-ended questions and avoid quizzing them on specific technology as much as possible. If they don't mention some of the specific tech organically that I want to hear about, I will "guide" them back to that at appropriate points.

dominicm 2020-04-15T16:18:35.058900Z

> add "pre-notes" to their map, and use both side-by-side. Love this idea! Totally stealing that.

dominicm 2020-04-15T16:20:28.059600Z

@seancorfield Curious to know how you drill into the conflict resolution, that seems tough. Also, the favorite blogs seems like it might feel a little awkward at times?

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:22:11.061200Z

Yeah, the blogs thing dates back to when blogs were really big and lots of people used RSS readers etc. I tend to ask more about how/where they get their tech news, what books they've been reading, what they think of certain online communities.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:22:59.062200Z

Conflict resolution is hard to bring up standalone -- you kind of have to look for hints of it in other areas. Often they bring it up unprompted as part of the "worst project" conversation ๐Ÿ™‚

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:23:29.063100Z

Sometimes it comes up under languages/process/tools that they've been "forced" to use too...

dominicm 2020-04-15T16:24:31.063500Z

What sort of thing are you looking for in that area?

Michael J Dorian 2020-04-15T16:24:46.063600Z

I've gotten in feedback that I haven't had enough conflict to be a candidate :simple_smile:

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:25:28.064400Z

I'm mostly looking for how they describe conflict situations and how they dealt with it, in their own words (guided a bit by me).

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:26:30.065600Z

Some candidates seem to get into a lot of conflict and will speak ill of their peers/managers in such situations. Some go out of their way to work through it to consensus. Some just try to avoid it. You have to look at it through the lens of your own company's culture.

seancorfield 2020-04-15T16:27:25.066300Z

Some just sullenly do whatever they're told by a manager/senior dev but they make it clear they have no respect for said "leader".

Darrell 2020-04-15T16:40:31.066600Z

Isnโ€™t that a little like the Army saying, โ€œYou donโ€™t have enough wounds to go into battle. Here, have this desk job for awhile.โ€œ?