jobs-discuss

Job hunting, interview process and anything related to the experience of a job writing the Clojure language.
p-himik 2020-06-19T08:14:06.331300Z

My first one is from Toptal, and we eventually started working directly (it's completely legal, his contract with Toptal allows it under some conditions). The rest of my clients all came from a single place. At one point I came to a genetics institute in my city and asked if I could work with them. I didn't want any money, I just was interested in genetics. They agreed, but they immediately started to pay me because for them it was the right thing to do. All other clients are just people that heard about me from the people in the institute.

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Aron 2020-06-19T08:21:56.331500Z

my experience as well, that initially I had to work for free, although I didn't mind this at the time, I don't think everyone should go through the same experience. But this also seems to vindicate the process, as in, if someone has the chance to work in this area, it usually is welcoming.

p-himik 2020-06-19T08:25:35.331800Z

Well, I didn't have to, I wanted to. :)

p-himik 2020-06-19T08:27:04.332Z

I'm also pretty active in supporting an open-source project. I've received a couple of leads from there - people wanted to hire me for consulting/development.

p-himik 2020-06-19T08:29:01.332200Z

My current plan for getting future clients, if I ever need a new one, is just like with the institute - I'd go somewhere where I would definitely like working even for free. If that doesn't work, I would try to find companies that, in my opinion, could benefit from my skills. And where I could show them that without them having to hire me. Needless to say, I haven't tried this approach, but it seems to work fine in other areas.

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victorb 2020-06-19T13:58:41.334300Z

not sure if this is the right place to ask, but giving it a try and you tell me if it's in the wrong place! Wondering a bit about contracting rates for clojure/script work in EU (Spain specifically). I'm moving into more freelancer/contractor basis after working full-time, and wondering what kind of rates people are offering for hourly work. If you're comfortable responding here I'd be very happy in receiving a PM. Or if someone knows any resources that lists average salaries/contracting rates for clojure/script specifically, that'd be much appreciated as well 🙂

victorb 2020-06-20T07:43:33.336100Z

Well, just having the range 30-200 is useful as well so thanks for sharing that 🙂

Chris McCormick 2020-06-23T02:11:58.337100Z

there is also the matter of developers who charge their hourly rate on a minute-by-minute basis versus those who just round to the nearest hour, or pad out to half day, etc. so "$100/hr" when charged in minute-by-minute increments can end up looking more like $25/hr depending on efficiency, productivity etc.

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p-himik 2020-06-19T15:05:21.334500Z

I know of people that receive from 30EUR/h to 200EUR/h. Wouldn't dare to plot a distribution based on this small sample.

p-himik 2020-06-19T15:11:11.334700Z

Now that I think of it, I'm not sure that those rates are specifically about CLJ[S]. But at the same time, I really don't think it matters that much. I specifically work only with clients that allow me to select my stack, or at least the languages.

seancorfield 2020-06-19T16:32:26.335100Z

Yeah, I'd expect rates to be all over the place... and depend far more on the companies acting as clients and how much they value work produced by contractors (and also depend on how the contractors market their skills).

seancorfield 2020-06-19T16:32:56.335300Z

And that would be the same as in the US: I've seen USD rates spread all over a similar range.