Job hunting, interview process and anything related to the experience of a job writing the Clojure language.
zendevil 2021-06-25T17:38:32.115300Z

I started a startup and it had been my full time job, but since I hadn’t raised a funding round and need money to pay student loans and afford living expenses, I’m looking for SE jobs. My plan is to work at another company for salary and pull the plug as soon as a major funding round is closed. Is it a good idea to tell the hiring company that I started my current company? Wouldn’t they smell that I’m actively looking for VC and could defect as soon as I raise a funding round? And wouldn’t it be dishonest to not share my primary motivation to join and my future plans?

eggsyntax 2021-06-25T17:44:25.116300Z

Good thing no one hiring in the clojure community ever looks in here or they might really take that the wrong way... Post edited to be somewhat less suggestive of dishonest intentions. Retracted 🙂

Darrell 2021-06-25T18:30:07.118600Z

Maybe do contracting/consulting instead since that can be open-ended from the start?

seancorfield 2021-06-25T18:32:49.119800Z

Wouldn't that startup be on your resume anyway, so anyone interviewing you is going to see it and ask you about it during the interview process? (and if you lie and they figure that out, when you suddenly quit to deal with funding, they may well sue you...)

p-himik 2021-06-25T18:36:24.119900Z

Interesting, I've never heard about such things before. Is CV considered a legal document? Or how does that work?

seancorfield 2021-06-25T18:39:09.120300Z

Not about the CV. About misrepresentation. If the CV lists some employment and you're asked about it during the interview and you lie to get the job -- that's potentially opening you up to a lawsuit.

zendevil 2021-06-25T18:39:36.120800Z

Also IP lawsuit if you work concurrently

seancorfield 2021-06-25T18:40:17.121Z

Yup, that too, since many employment contracts have pretty brutal IP clauses 😞 I usually try to get those changed or at least an appendix with specific exceptions added.

seancorfield 2021-06-25T18:41:52.121200Z

I would definitely advocate honesty during an interview -- but as others have suggested, maybe contract-based work would make things easier, if you're really planning to devote yourself to your startup if you can get funding...

p-himik 2021-06-25T18:45:20.121400Z

Thanks! > The general principle of misrepresentation has been adopted by the USA and various Commonwealth countries That's probably why I never heard about it. :) Or maybe I'm just not in the know, but a common approach to such things in Russia is to either put it in contract and make it binding ("I promise that I have such experience and if not, I shall be taken accountable") or to not care about such things at all and just make the first month a "testing" one.

seancorfield 2021-06-25T18:46:14.121600Z

"contract-to-hire" is a pretty common approach in some places -- sometimes three months of "probation".

p-himik 2021-06-25T18:47:21.121800Z

Yes, that's what I meant. :) Quite nice when it exists in the legal framework.

eckardjf 2021-06-25T19:12:30.122200Z

Are there any Clojure-focused resume review / interview prep / job search coaching services? I feel like most of what I see is tailored for FAANG positions which might be overkill or at least not a good match (though I may be wrong about that).

seancorfield 2021-06-25T19:17:23.123600Z

I wish that FAANG interview style would not be adopted by other companies -- it's a horrible approach (and even the FAANG companies seem to agree, but they're so flooded with applications that they have very little incentive to change).

seancorfield 2021-06-25T19:19:31.125400Z

"Prep" for an interview should really be about making sure you understand enough about the company to be able to talk about why you want to work for them specifically and what you bring to the table for them. And make sure your resume/CV is clearly-written and that you are comfortable talking in-depth about your experience.

seancorfield 2021-06-25T19:20:03.126Z

(tech interviews are like a giant pet peeve of mine since most companies are just awful at interviewing)

eckardjf 2021-06-25T19:33:00.126300Z

I agree - sounds reasonable. As someone interviewing again for the first time in years and trying to transition to Clojure I thought maybe I should try one to help avoid wasting an opportunity.