Clojurians Log v2
ldnclj
Morning from a packed train from Newcastle to London.
Morning
Morning!
@agile_geek: just scrolling through chat (I’ve been off sick) - I’m a huge fan of cursive, I used to use emacs but moved to cursive for it’s multi-language support and refactoring - seems like emacs is catching up on the refactoring front finally, but it’s taken a while!
and, just as in emacs, you really need to learn the paredit commands: https://cursiveclojure.com/userguide/paredit.html :simple_smile:
on that note we are getting close to refactor release 1.1.0
some new stuff: rename directory/package. find/rename macro support, inlining symbols, add stubs for protocols, interfaces or from example usage, various bugfixes
Morning
checking 1.1.0 snapshot and giving us feedback (bugreports) would be great btw 😉
Morning from the north
excellent. Emacs should be a better editor for clojure - it’s lisp all the way down - it just seemed to lag for a while!
forgot my manners: reggelt!
@korny: i think paredit(or similar)/cider/clj-refactor is a really powerful combo. but then surely i am biased 😉
For me, if I were deep in clojure all day, on a single code base, with my head totally in the zone, I’d probably switch back to emacs like a shot. But the reality is, I work on multi-language projects, I often have to look at several different codebases, and I’m not always working on my code, that I understand - I’m browsing someone else’s code, or a shared codebase, and if I’m in emacs I really feel the lack of a GUI, with a graphical tree of the project structure and the ability to rapidly browse it. Speedbar or dired just don’t cut it.
@korny: absolutely valid point about multi lang projects. I have not checked for while but after 1.5 java syntax changes emacs java support (used to use JDEE) practically got removed
It’s funny - I used emacs “back in the day” when I was a C++/Python coder - and tried really hard to keep using it when I moved to Java, but gave up, the whole “run ctags to generate references” thing was just painful.
morning d00dz
there is a debugger now in cider too. (on 0.9 snapshot but 0.9 will be released most likely this week)
can’t really share details as i don’t find myself doing much debugging in clojure having the REPL and all
i am sure cursive debugging is awesome tho 😉
@benedek ah cool, I'll take a look. I remember trying to get a debugger working in emacs before (after watching a supercool YouTube video about it) but didn't manage to set it up right
a short intro by malabarba who actually wrote the debugger: http://endlessparentheses.com/cider-debug-a-visual-interactive-debugger-for-clojure.html
he can be found in the #C0617A8PQ channel here i think
wait @thomas who else is in southampton? I should hit em up. 3-5 is enough for pub
@tcrayford: there is Chris J., Alan F. (not sure if he is on here (yet)), Phil R. and Keith M. might be interested as well.
@tcrayford: where are you based?
inner avenue, near town
(bottom end of portswood really)
Cool
let me invite the others as well here and then maybe we can organise something
awesome :simple_smile: I'm kinda busy the next few weeks (until euroclojure - have a talk to prepare), but I can prolly manage pub at some point during that
@thomas: you know where everybody else is based? Where are you?
I am in Chandler's Ford and the other are near So'ton as well.
neat then. I'm kinda restricted mobility wise - don't have a car right now, but I'm happy catching buses or trains or whatever works
getting into so'ton isn't really a problem for us anyway. Chris and I met up with Alan at Starbucks a few weeks ago
neat then. Coffee is fine for me as well - I work from home most of the time
@benedek thanks!
@natasha: np
@jr0cket: Hi John 👋
Hi @jr0cket :simple_smile:
welcome @jr0cket
👋
welp. I might just have figured out macros.