Clojurians Log v2

thom: anything in particular that could be improved from your core.typed experience?

thomas: ^ rather

Bore da

morning!

benedek: love the clr-refactor gifs

one thing I kind of miss in the new setup is what refactorings require the nrepl middleware

What do you think of a little symbol (*) on the list in the wiki indicating those

mowning

thx @martintrojer . fair point. we are still working on the readme/wiki

might revive signaling it.

i guess you still don’t use the middleware, right?

I can have a go if you want, not sure what your policies for editing the wiki is

(Yeah, still not back on cider after the whole 0.7-SNAPSHOT debacle)

i forwarded your comment to @expez on gitter

he is just editing it

what the gitter channel called? :simple_smile:

https://gitter.im/clojure-emacs/refactor-nrepl

morning!

@ambrosebs: hi from London...

morning

morning

mornign

^ first typo of the day

mooorning

has @tcrayford turned into a cow I wonder

😛

haha

at a previous job, hubot would say "good morning" if you said certain key words in the chat, and as a result we all adopted mispellings of "morning"

I tend to say good moaning

being foreign and all that

<cultural_stereotype>G’day</>

<adopted_cultural_stereotype>Way aye</>

it's too damn hot today

plus I'm nursing a small hangover

and I've plunged down several react rabbitholes

sounds painful

@jonpither: what kind of rabbitholes are there to fall into in react (never used it, but definitely curious)

@gjnoonan: now time for a nap 😉

started playing with http://facebook.github.io/fixed-data-table/... but then I want it responsive, and so find a wrapper http://react-components.com/component/responsive-fixed-data-table. But this needs ported on to jscljs or webjars... it's no longer much fun

now back to trying to explain to management the need to clojure as I discovered this morning they said “I don’t think it is the best use of your time"

my reaction was simply WTF!

Reusing react components is OK, but when they often come with some custom JS for customization, this makes Clojurescript integration more painful

Sounds painful @gjnoonan

@gjnoonan: I don’t even try and use Clojure in work. Any org that hasn’t moved off Java 1.5 really has no appetite for any technical advances - Full Stop.

ahhaa java EOL stuff

(reminder that everything except java 8 is EOL and won't be patched if/when some huge security bug turns up)

@agile_geek: well I’m in dispute at the moment about how things are running, and how they should be. However I can’t air them here.

suffice to say, I am very annoyed at the moment!

@gjnoonan: I feel your pain. I was, until recently, CTO of a small consultancy and even in that position the internal politics meant I struggled to do all that I wanted/needed to. Hence the ‘was’ in that statement. For the moment I’m contracting, role is not exciting but it’s a means to an end.

I was in the same position, but you know how it is .. far less experience friend of the ceo comes on board etc..

@gjnoonan: I was the friend of the CEO! Just the COO and others in Sales had more sway than me.

@tcrayford: given the business area of the client you would hope security mattered to them but apparently not as much as keeping the ‘oil tanker’ on course!

Anywho, I probably shouldn’t say any more in an open forum with a logbot 😉 lol

@gjnoonan: ditto

it's fine, prolly something like 1000 companies in the world take security actually seriously 😉 (and most of those prolly ain't in the fortune 500 or whatever)

pfft who needs security

Almost in London . Does that make me a real London clojurian ?

I'm not in London either mate 😛

I think there's a few who aren't

nor have I ever attended a London Clojurians event 😮

ditto

Maybe we are just fake ones in when not in London ? ?

Milton Keynes is where it's at... there's a convention going on close by with driver cars n stuff

driver less

I tried to enter with my shorts and t-shirts on, I was refused entry

coming to work in a suit tomorrow, it's still on

😃

You should come to hursley sometime Jon . Shorts and t shirt no problem here.

And sandals as well of course 😋

Looking at the map... we're talking IBM?

Looks a nice part of the world

Yes

@thomas: I think I remember going to Hursley for a mainframe course in CICS or somthing similar about 25 years ago!

Yes CICS gets developed here.

Are IBM looking into Clojure at all?

@acron: I s'pose you're sort of a remote London Clojurian? 😉

@thomas IBM are still developing CICS? Wow. I know half the legacy world still runs on it but didn’t think much dev effort went on.