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thomas 2015-11-05T09:24:38.000002Z

morning

mccraigmccraig 2015-11-05T09:27:15.000003Z

moarning

2015-11-05T09:28:24.000004Z

morning.

2015-11-05T09:30:00.000005Z

I'd like to thank @malcolmsparks for an excellent Cognicast episode which I've only had chance to listen to during my commute this morning.

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thomas 2015-11-05T10:43:02.000006Z

+1 excellent talk indeed.

2015-11-05T14:17:09.000007Z

I've been playing with Re-frame recently and SSE was the missing piece of my 'streams everywhere' puzzle. Desperately trying to find a little time to play with yada

2015-11-05T14:18:22.000008Z

Following on from @malcolmsparks talk, how many in this channel are like me, in as much as they only really get to use Clojure out of work?

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:20:55.000009Z

I've been reading a classic marketing book, crossing the chasm. It articulates well who makes up the various chunks in the tech adoption curve: http://www2.johnson.cornell.edu/alumni/enterprise/fall2012/images/ico_feature_nextbigthing_chart1.gif.

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jonpither 2015-11-05T14:21:18.000011Z

Innovators would be the people on here, using Clojure out of work etc

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:21:45.000012Z

Early adopters are companies like uswitch, and other companies in London using Clojure to get a leap up on the competiton, and have a visionary at the helm

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:22:21.000013Z

The early majority basically need references and case-studies. So once Clojure is doing well in a couple of high profile banks, the other banks will want it

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:22:27.000014Z

same for other industry areas

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:23:34.000015Z

The biggest problem Clojure has, Vs Scala, is discontinuous innovation. I.e. Scala is a continuous innovation path from Java. Clojure is discontinuous in that it's a radical departure, hence the adoption curve is far more relevant

jonpither 2015-11-05T14:24:03.000016Z

Anyway, I thought I'd share, I found that interesting, may work into a short blog at some stage...

2015-11-05T14:51:00.000017Z

yeah, i'm familiar with the book. It can be hard to tell where something like Clojure is on the curve.

2015-11-05T14:52:27.000018Z

It's also hard to get a feeling for this when outside of London. Up here in the Midlands, anything other than PHP/Wordpress, C#, or Java is fairly rare.

jamiei 2015-11-05T15:19:43.000019Z

Interesting @jonpither

jamiei 2015-11-05T15:20:04.000020Z

Would you recommend the book?

maleghast 2015-11-05T16:44:41.000023Z

@jonpither: Hey there Jon, how are you doing..?

maleghast 2015-11-05T16:45:45.000024Z

That’s a great book, no doubt about that

andrei 2015-11-05T23:40:42.000026Z

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