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agile_geek 2015-12-11T07:24:47.000455Z

Good morning and goodbye London. I'm going back 'up north' for three weeks over Christmas this evening. I will return in 2016.

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T08:01:21.000456Z

eyup

thomas 2015-12-11T08:47:09.000457Z

three weeks? slacker 😉

agile_geek 2015-12-11T09:50:39.000458Z

no money for three weeks!

keeds 2015-12-11T09:53:33.000459Z

Christmas is cancelled!

xlevus 2015-12-11T10:01:59.000460Z

@keeds: Fuck yes!

agile_geek 2015-12-11T10:04:54.000463Z

and I'm not really slacking as I'm working on a new biz idea

pupeno 2015-12-11T10:13:13.000464Z

Good morning.

thomas 2015-12-11T10:14:40.000465Z

@agile_geek: sounds good.... let me know if you need some clj devs 😉

agile_geek 2015-12-11T10:18:36.000467Z

@thomas: I need some customer first! Then a clearer idea of what problem to solve. That's what I've got various meetings set up to talk about.

xlevus 2015-12-11T10:19:54.000468Z

my company will be your customer, providing you write it in clojure, contract out the devlopment (to my company), for >100% of the cost of your services

xlevus 2015-12-11T10:19:54.000469Z

:P

xlevus 2015-12-11T10:45:43.000471Z

It's a business strategy popular with powerful Italians everywhere.

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:45:49.000472Z

@agile_geek: first customers then problem ?

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:46:49.000473Z

i suppose if you are good at persuading peeps, since everyone has problems, that could work

agile_geek 2015-12-11T10:49:17.000474Z

@mccraigmccraig: It's more about talking to ppl about the problems they have within a rough idea of what I want to do then focussing on what pain point to solve for them. No point building something no one wants.

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:51:01.000475Z

indeed... it's always a dance. the killer feature for the app i'm working on didn't become apparent until we started talking to potential customers

agile_geek 2015-12-11T10:51:11.000476Z

😄

agile_geek 2015-12-11T10:51:32.000477Z

Pivot!

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:52:14.000478Z

we discovered this early enough that no pivot was required 😄

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:52:36.000479Z

though there was some considerable requirements creep

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T10:52:58.000480Z

and some extra late nights for me

xlevus 2015-12-11T10:59:57.000482Z

bloody requirements

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:00:00.000483Z

always creepin'

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:00:06.000484Z

watching you while you poop

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:02:21.000485Z

damn their damnable hides

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:03:12.000486Z

though they are starting to sound a bit like santa... has anyone ever seen santa and some requirements at the same time ?

agile_geek 2015-12-11T11:03:42.000487Z

requirements also travel at faster then the speed of light like Santa

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:06:11.000488Z

i've been doing santa physics with my 5yr old son... we're currently reckoning that santa is some sort of self-replicating autonomous machine to avoid the heat/relativity problems... problem is, where does all the mass come from ?

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:06:34.000489Z

and how do the santabots get merged on boxing day ?

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:07:53.000490Z

grey goo

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:08:28.000491Z

the Santa grey-goo is probably the leading cause of deforestation

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:09:02.000492Z

and maybe, they don't get merged. Maybe they become the present

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:10:52.000493Z

oh, nice ! but does that mean that different santabots have different densities or sizes according to the target mass of the present ?

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:12:27.000494Z

or are they uniform, and there is some sort of overflow shedding mechanism... an unexplained extra uncle at christmas dinner who wanders absent-mindedly away after the queen's speech or something

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:13:26.000495Z

I'd imagine they'd be smart enough to not overharvest

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:13:41.000496Z

So if you got one small present, you get a tiny santa

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:14:49.000497Z

maybe they fly from house to house, dropping off presents, reducing their mass. And topping up on cookies and milk.

xlevus 2015-12-11T11:15:32.000498Z

And all the naughty kids get the leftover santa, as coal.

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:16:22.000499Z

ah, that's it... and i bet calculating the optimal number of santas is NP complete

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T11:17:03.000500Z

and y'all thought this was off-topic 😄

thomas 2015-12-11T15:01:45.000501Z

:simple_smile:

agile_geek 2015-12-11T17:17:53.000502Z

I'm out of here ldn see u next year. You've been a wonderful audience have a Happy Christmas. 👋

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T17:19:59.000503Z

london - what's that but a browny smear just over the horizon ?

agile_geek 2015-12-11T17:22:10.000504Z

😄

mccraigmccraig 2015-12-11T17:24:11.000505Z

and yorkshire is over my horizon's horizon. if i hadn't grown up near the peak district i'm not sure i would believe in it

agile_geek 2015-12-11T18:32:05.000506Z

Yorkshire is that geeny, hilly smear on my horizon..try 90 miles North of York!