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agile_geek 2016-01-14T07:20:31.001098Z

I'm not even creating the spreadsheets...just having to read and validate them! Mind numbingly boring.

agile_geek 2016-01-14T07:22:18.001100Z

Also I think you are all working under the assumption I could actually get Clojure or any other tool I want through client firewalls! 😢

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T09:49:38.001101Z

@agile_geek: but how are you sneaking slack through ?

gjnoonan 2016-01-14T09:50:12.001102Z

Hola

agile_geek 2016-01-14T09:51:56.001103Z

@agile_geek: I'm not. I have client windows laptop on network and my Mac tethered to my phone.

thomas 2016-01-14T09:52:49.001104Z

morning

thomas 2016-01-14T09:53:15.001105Z

@agile_geek: 😢

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T10:04:00.001107Z

@agile_geek: ah, yes - last time i was on a network like that i tethered my laptop to download useful stuff and switched back to the client network to upload to their servers :simple_smile: - my laptop though

agile_geek 2016-01-14T10:06:08.001108Z

Can't put my laptop on their network and can't email stuff about

korny 2016-01-14T10:14:25.001109Z

Most of my recent clients run two networks - one for “work” and one for “everything else”. I actually think this works pretty well, and solves a bunch of security issues around people installing crap on work machines. Though it annoys me when they still filter “social media” from the “everything else” network, and when they block me installing software tools on the “work” network :simple_smile:

agile_geek 2016-01-14T10:26:21.001110Z

The installing s/w tools bit is what really annoys me. My boss is targeting getting the approval process for tools down from an average of about 12 months to 2 weeks which would be a start!

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T10:29:02.001111Z

12 months ? lol - by the time you have approval the tool will be out of date !

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T10:30:39.001112Z

@agile_geek: are there sensible reasons they are so conservative or is it just ass-covering ?

agile_geek 2016-01-14T10:32:50.001113Z

"The Bank is risk-averse" is the mantra...this from an org whose main internet banking offering has test coverage at a level so low I would definitely be breaking NDA's to even hint at whoops

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mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T10:40:35.001114Z

well, increasing test coverage would find problems which would require solutions, which are changes and therefore risky ! it's the medical screening dilemma in binary form

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thomas 2016-01-14T12:57:25.001116Z

Bank are very very risk averse... that is why they would never ever go bust.

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thomas 2016-01-14T12:57:30.001117Z

honest guv'

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T13:00:42.001119Z

averse to all risks apart from the ones so large that no-one can see them

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meow 2016-01-14T13:04:56.001120Z

:shhhhhhh:

meow 2016-01-14T13:05:51.001121Z

㊙️ 🙈 🔩

meow 2016-01-14T13:06:31.001122Z

is bitcoin a solution or just a big scam

meow 2016-01-14T13:07:05.001123Z

I keep researching and can't decide - can't quite figure it out or comprehend its checkered past

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mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T13:16:29.001124Z

bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general seem reasonable, apart from that they tie the value of the currency to the consumption of an awful lot of power. this might be ok if you mine from solar power in space, but is perhaps less ok if you mine from gas-burning power stations on earth

mccraigmccraig 2016-01-14T13:18:14.001125Z

plus there is a lot of scope for scamming at the interface to other currencies in an unestablished market with no history of trust mechanisms

minimal 2016-01-14T14:18:28.001126Z

It’s a scam in the sense that i bricked a 500 quid gpu mining dogecoin

minimal 2016-01-14T14:19:15.001127Z

good hash rate while it lasted though

thomas 2016-01-14T16:33:22.001128Z

@minimal: 😞

minimal 2016-01-14T16:36:13.001129Z

@thomas: is was ok, I was able to get a replacement as it was within a month of buying it.

thomas 2016-01-14T16:36:40.001130Z

so you were just doing a burn in test 😉

pyb 2016-01-14T16:47:27.001131Z

Hi, is anyone looking for a Clojurian in or around London ? Linkedin/Github in my profile.

minimal 2016-01-14T16:48:51.001132Z

@thomas yeah, just checking if it was in the wrong part of the bathtub curve