Clojurians Log v2
meander
Meant to post this earlier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJWUar1yyOc
This is how I’m feeling at the moment. 🙂
The little song at the beginning. Not the whole video. 😂
Oh, is that Richard Ayoade
I’m not sure? But my kids and I love this show.
It is. That was the first thing I noticed as well.
Does anyone know this person? https://reclojure.org/2020-speakers/paulo-feodrippe.html
I’m interested in model checking and how it can be leveraged in Clojure.
@pfeodrippe seems to be on Slack
BTW @borkdude thanks to the babashka pressure and the work on the epsilon interpreter, I made a breakthrough that will accelerate zeta to the point of having something tangible but not fully optimized in the near future.
I’ve almost got the substitution half of the interpreter ready which I’ll be pushing soon.
:bananadance: Sounds great! If you're interested, I'm doing a babashka / sci internals presentation in about an hour here: https://www.meetup.com/London-Clojurians/events/274014078/
After that, I can pretty much take almost all of that code and fit it in to the zeta model I’ve been tinkering with.
@borkdude Are you in London ATM?
no, The Netherlands
Slack says it’s 18:40 where you are and I’m a lazy American.
Ah.
The meetup happens from London originally though
I'm a visiting speaker. They have invited half the Clojure community to do talks there it seems ;)
That might be a little bit early for me but I could always tune in later if it’s on YouTube or something.
Half the Clojure community, that’s like what, 20 people or something? 😛
Gah, sometimes I wish my family and I could pick up and move to Europe. I lived in Spain for 5 years in when I was teenager and loved everywhere I went. Never got a chance to visit the Netherlands though. 😞
Sweet! Perhaps after your talk? I’m excited to learn about what you’re working on.
Yes, sure :D. We will also have a QA after the talk, but I'm not expert myself, I'm doing this for a more practical purposes. I would like to see what you have in mind for it o/
Practical purposes is where I’m coming from as well with Meander. I’m trying to bring some of the ideas from term rewriting that I think are useful in day to day programming. Where model checking is interesting to me is being able to take a rewrite system and ask it questions such as • what are your inputs? • what are your outputs (normal forms)? • what are the paths between and inputs and an outputs? With answers to these questions we can assert whether or not claims about those systems are true, etc.
Got it! I am aiming to use it more to try to understand a system with little or no regard to the code implementation. More high level view of everything, but I see thay you want to use it on other ways, right? Tell me more if you can, I would like to learn, man :D
My knowledge of model checking is limited. I have a copy of “Principles of Model Checking” but I haven’t dedicated time to reading it.
My exposure to model checking has been primarily through Maude.
BTW, for folks who do not know about Maude: http://maude.cs.illinois.edu/w/index.php?title=The_Maude_System
The interpreter namespace is coming together. I pushed up the new protocol based pattern match/substitution factory stuff. Just a bit more to do.
Probably a couple more days of work to go.