Clojurians Log v2

@huxley I have fixed the issue and it is currently on the epsilon branch.

👌

There was an issue with one of the compiler features and I have disabled it

what exactly, I'm curious

A step called “with consolidation” which collects all with nodes in the AST of a parsed pattern and combines them in one massive with that wraps the whole pattern.

The real issue is a lack of test coverage — this is my fault — assuming the REPL and high level tests were enough.

IMHO, for a project like this, I think a combination of TDD, heavy testing, and RDD (REPL driven development) is the most effective.

At least, this is what I’ve discovered in the process of working on zeta.

I am currently pushing meander into all my private projects, so perhaps I can help and catch some bugs

also some generative testing, they are hard to get right, but pay off big time

Finding bugs is helpful. I don’t know how to grow the contributor base though. It’s difficult to balance work, personal life, epsilon, and zeta when I don’t pace myself.

I may have mentioned it here, but last year sometime after being lockdown for awhile I found myself feeling burned out and then feeling guilty for “allowing” myself to play a video game. That was the moment I realized I was unhealthy.

I will continue to work on and support the project but I would like to find members of the community who would be willing to contribute some time here or there.

There’s this idea going around that, well, we can just throw money at developers for their OSS and call that “support”. The reality is, there is much more to support than that.

Me saying this isn’t meant to be a guilt trip to anyone here who uses the project but doesn’t contribute to it. Let me be clear: everyone here that has used the project, reported a bug, helped another person, etc. has absolutely contributed to the success of the project.

work life balance is hard

What I’m saying is I could use a hand and would happily provide support, direction, etc. free from pressure should anyone wish to lend one.

Put another way: I’m a bottleneck! 🙂

unfortunately, I would like to enter into a conversation, but the language barrier makes me a little uncomfortable

I would not want you to think that I have not read, I just can't answer sensibly

Indeed. They are uncommon though because, I think, there isn’t a lot of emphasis on properties (in particular algebraic ones) in the Clojure community, and, on top of developers not being sure when to use them, it can be cumbersome to write generators. Contrast this with, say, the Haskell community where reliance on algebra is commonplace and they have the luxury of the type system helping to automatically derive generators (that don’t suck by the way!).

What language do you speak?

Polish

I have no problem with contextual understanding, I can read a book or documentation, but writing and especially speaking is a disaster.

Ah, the closest I’ve gotten to Poland is Marek Grechuta’s first 4 albums and a couple Stanislav Szukalski books. 🙂

(I don’t count CDPR games.)

I would expect anything but Grechuta

I know him, I like him and I appreciate him, but the younger generation in Poland has no idea who he is

His first four albums are among some of my favorite records. I don’t understand Polish but I can appreciate great music. Also, I think it he is one of few artists who I can name as putting out such a long streak of great (in my opinion) records.

many of the lyrics are classic Polish poems

from the first album 7/10

life is amazing, I didn't expect to be on clojure slack writing with a foreigner about a fairly niche polish musician who recorded 50 years ago

🙃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og9sQgce5kg

☝️ This is the song the pulled me to his music upon first contact. 🙂

The construction is top notch.

(Audio is a little rough at the beginning, the track on the album sounds better.)

Thanks for sharing! :)

FWIW that song is from his early stuff. His subsequent albums might be classified, today, as “psych folk”.

@noprompt do you know Czesław Niemen?

rather different music, but the same period

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7Zo3guNJs

I had not encountered this artist before. Ah, the organ. What happened to it? 🙂