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Giovani Altelino 2020-08-30T02:37:03.213200Z

I mean, you gave some tips that could have helped him to debug, and also you "... is a new contributor. Be nice ... ". So yeah, feel free to be annoyed. ๐Ÿ˜†

seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:19:51.214200Z

That's very common. My friends in the ColdFusion (CFML) community are always having their posts deleted by SO moderators who know nothing about CFML...

seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:20:34.214400Z

This is part of why we have http://ask.clojure.org now. To avoid the weird partisanship of SO.

zackteo 2020-08-30T05:22:18.214600Z

Mmmm, I figured! Quite sad tho that it then seems to others that the Clojure community might be "dead". Especially cause of our removal from the StackOverflow survey this year (speaking of which did anyone actually find out why? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ )

seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:27:23.214900Z

The SO survey is not a useful measure of anything, given the politics of SO...

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seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:29:39.215100Z

Tiobe is also not a useful measure, because it arbitrarily decides what is a language and what isn't. The same goes for all these "language popularity" sites.

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zackteo 2020-08-30T05:41:39.215300Z

Yeap, I saw a discussion on that on reddit. I do agree it might not be useful to those who understand. But to those who aren't in the loop, people who would have potentially gotten into Clojure that doesn't help that part i guess? That's how I feel at least

seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:43:05.215500Z

But you can't go out and convince all those people, you just can't reach them. This is just one of those annoying things about misinformation. There's nothing you can do.

zackteo 2020-08-30T05:45:54.215700Z

Mmmm, yeap that's the unfortunate reality :x

seancorfield 2020-08-30T05:46:52.215900Z

Gotta be "zen" about it... otherwise it will drive you crazy ๐Ÿ™‚

2020-08-30T06:26:54.216800Z

possibly fun thing to try at your clojure repl (jvm, clr, and cljs):

user=> 36ReallyIsAWeirdBaseIsItNotDoWeHaveSmallTalkToThankForThis

p-himik 2020-08-30T07:00:35.216900Z

For those interested but lazy, a quote from https://clojure.org/guides/learn/syntax: > Clojure also supports [...] arbitrary radix (prefix with base then r) integers. Seems like character case doesn't matter.

helios 2020-08-30T16:57:27.217800Z

http://mmlabsites.disi.unitn.it/face-perception A friend of mine is running this university research experiment about recognizing real faces vs deep fakes. If you have a few minutes to participate and are interested give it a go ๐Ÿ˜„

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joefromct 2020-08-30T19:15:10.218400Z

Is human memory immutable?

idiomancy 2020-08-31T12:56:20.228400Z

something something 4d spacetime so yes, human memory is immutable.

valtteri 2020-08-31T14:49:30.231100Z

Woop, didnโ€™t mean to spam the channel.

Mno 2020-08-31T14:54:29.231300Z

I like that concept

idiomancy 2020-08-31T16:20:50.231500Z

yeah, I like that too. memories are read-time constructs

2020-08-31T16:32:29.231700Z

I can swing the answer either way, which direction helps pay the bills?

idiomancy 2020-08-31T17:26:18.239Z

^ word

rberger 2020-08-31T19:30:28.243500Z

Its the opposite of immutable

helios 2020-09-02T09:31:38.279300Z

yeah i think i've read they work as reinforced paths. Accessing data makes it stronger ๐Ÿ˜„

helios 2020-09-02T09:31:43.279500Z

Brain is lazy like that

Ruy Valle 2020-09-02T13:08:58.280300Z

exactly, and conversely paths not used often gradually degrade. then again, there are many kinds of paths with varying characteristics (e.g. motor skills vs. memory of historical facts), and I think paths created in different circumstances (e.g. at different ages) can have different characteristics (e.g. a very old memory that is almost never accessed but doesnโ€™t degrade much).

porkostomus 2020-09-03T02:25:52.281400Z

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_trace_theory

p-himik 2020-08-30T19:20:35.218500Z

I'm not an expert but I highly doubt that based on the limited knowledge I have on the matter.

dominicm 2020-08-30T21:10:53.225100Z

I thought I knew, but I've forgotten

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raicotop 2020-08-30T21:14:16.225300Z

It is not, our memories are rewritten every time they are recalled.