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seancorfield 2020-09-07T00:51:06.413900Z

TIL: If your Mac CPU gets too hot, kernel task "steals" CPU cycles to prevent other processes from using the CPU in order to try to cool it down. It's 105F in my house right now and the kernel task is using 800% of my CPU to prevent me doing anything that would heat the CPU up 😒

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henrik 2020-09-07T08:05:25.427Z

I ended up buying something like this when I lived in Dubai and had the same problem. There’s a fan mounted under the lid, and it did a good job of cooling down the computer. Edit: Just saw that this is about a desktop, nevermind.

borkdude 2020-09-07T08:25:11.427500Z

I like WSL2 but 16GB doesn't cut it for me. Might migrate away from Macbook, if the price difference is large enough. I'm keeping my eyes open for a Ryzen with 64GB.

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borkdude 2020-09-07T08:26:04.427700Z

This week there is a free online conf called https://www.wslconf.dev/ if you're interested in WSL.

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2020-09-07T18:42:03.433900Z

I feel so torn about what to get next. After trying Android, Windows Metro, and iOS I do enjoy iOS the most. Additionally I do like using OS X over Windows which I’ve become more familiar through Shadow. That said Apple hardware has become increasingly more disappointing to me. Maybe Hackintosh laptop would be worth the investment?

michaelteter 2020-09-07T22:41:46.435400Z

I've lived the Windows world several times, and the Linux world as well... and macOS. And in that order, I've had to do reinstalls and OS repair. My usage habits don't change, but thus far macOS has been multiples of times more stable long term (for me). Also, my really awesome (on paper) XPS 15 mysteriously underperformed from day one... not to mention the extra legwork required to get a lot of dev tools to work properly.

michaelteter 2020-09-07T22:43:30.435600Z

My personal machine is still a 2014 MPB. My next machine will be a Macbook Air i5, 16GB ram, and cloud/aws when I need something bigger. (and external big nice monitor is a must)

michaelteter 2020-09-07T22:44:28.435800Z

pre-corona when I planned to travel a lot, I was going to try the ipad pro + rpi 4 thing (with an AWS server when I had internet), but alas that is not possible now.

2020-09-10T17:18:30.133600Z

Dream build: Hidden desk computer + hackintosh https://youtu.be/Perqf0dOGLk

nivekuil 2020-09-07T00:54:29.414Z

wut. why doesn't it just throttle processor clocks

seancorfield 2020-09-07T01:19:31.414400Z

I think that's actually what it is doing -- but the Activity Monitor reports it as kernel_task using all your CPU. It actually managed to claim 1,495% CPU just a while ago. I now have two fans blowing on it, and two ice packs propped up against the front, where the air intake slots are 😐

nivekuil 2020-09-07T01:25:38.414600Z

that whole setup sounds like it could be an $800 dongle instead

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phronmophobic 2020-09-07T01:27:17.414800Z

are you sure you're not charging your macbook from the wrong side 😛 ? https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/363933

seancorfield 2020-09-07T01:31:30.415100Z

@smith.adriane This is a 2012 iMac desktop.

seancorfield 2020-09-07T01:32:10.415300Z

(I just ordered a Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 to essentially replace it)

phronmophobic 2020-09-07T01:32:52.415500Z

lucky! my old macbook broke and I had to "upgrade" to a bunch of dongles, lame keyboard, and stupid touch bar.

phronmophobic 2020-09-07T01:33:31.415700Z

to be fair, my laptop is now a few mm thinner

seancorfield 2020-09-07T01:36:26.415900Z

MS had a great deal on some of the SL3's -- $300 off for certain colors/CPU/RAM combos.

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seancorfield 2020-09-07T01:40:33.416200Z

So this is really a replacement for my 2012 Dell XPS 12 "2-in-1" which cost about $1,500 back then with only 8GB RAM and 128GB SSD. So that isn't really work-capable but this new laptop should be, and I'm about at the end of my rope with Apple these days (after being a loyal customer since the very early '90s!). I just replaced my iPhone with an Android phone. The Dell was already a replacement for my previous MBP. I've moved all my contacts, photos, and music to the cloud (Google/YouTube) so I'm not dependent on Apple's iCloud stuff, and I've run mostly MS apps on my iPhone and Mac for years anyway... The whole WSL stuff on Windows is what I finally needed to break free of development on Mac systems.

phronmophobic 2020-09-07T01:46:25.416400Z

I have to do iOS development for work which is just enough of a pain on other platforms that I've been reluctant to make the jump away from iComputers. maybe when this laptop dies...

chucklehead 2020-09-07T02:27:26.416600Z

I've had this one for a couple of years and like it. I WFH full time so it gets used pretty much every day. I got it on sale at Costco for I think <$250 in store, not sure if they still carry it. https://www.twinstarhome.com/products/desks/ashford-standing-desk/

chucklehead 2020-09-07T02:28:00.416900Z

My only real gripe was that the glass top plus the tall but narrow metal rail underneath made it difficult to find a monitor arm that worked. I ended up having to glue a block of MDF to the underside in one corner for the arm to clamp down on. As it turns out I probably could've saved some money because I use it standing almost exclusively and don't really need the motorized adjustments, but didn't know I'd prefer standing so much when I first purchased.

chucklehead 2020-09-07T02:42:45.417100Z

recently went to a Surface Pro X from an XPS 13 after using a previous-gen surface pro for a few months on a contract assignment. Really liked how the Surface type cover was essentially the same footprint as my XPS but managed to have a much bigger/usable keyboard.

chucklehead 2020-09-07T02:43:19.417300Z

the 3:2 displays on the new surfaces are nice too

seancorfield 2020-09-07T03:36:27.417500Z

Do you do development on the Pro @chuck.cassel?

chucklehead 2020-09-07T03:41:18.417700Z

I wasn't really intending to initially, but I've ended up using it for dev quite a bit.

chucklehead 2020-09-07T03:41:54.417900Z

most of the work I've done in clojure has been on it since I got it a few months ago

seancorfield 2020-09-07T03:44:44.418100Z

I thought the Pro X ran a non-Intel chip? I wouldn't have expected it to be a good dev machine...

chucklehead 2020-09-07T03:45:34.418300Z

with WSL it ends up being not too much of a problem

seancorfield 2020-09-07T03:45:50.418500Z

Interesting that pretty much all of Microsoft's i7 16GB/256GB devices are $1,499 -- the Pro 7, the Pro X, and the Laptop 3!

seancorfield 2020-09-07T03:46:17.418700Z

Yeah, that's what I'll be using on my Laptop 3 when it arrives (on Thursday 🙂 )

chucklehead 2020-09-07T03:51:18.418900Z

it can do x86 emulation, so between that and linux aarch64 I've been able to find some version of most software I wanted

2020-09-07T03:58:47.419100Z

I've been using an adhoc hand me down standing desk for many years and recently made a new pair of legs to make it less adhoc. My design for the "new" desk started with wanting to make it a built in, hang it from the wall, open up all the space under the desk. The existing base was similar to what you see for a lot of these standing desks. Capital I (in a serif font) shaped pillars connected by a rail low down and with the top across (very much like that picture). And that is a nice sturdy shape and design, and deals with moving up and down very well, it the bar on the bottom breaks up the space under the desk and makes it harder to use for storage and makes the back of the desk dead space (assuming it is against a wall at home).

2020-09-07T04:00:07.419300Z

So I very much recommend (if you are fine with a fixed height) just mounting a desktop(maybe an ikea counter top) to the wall, with supports underneath

seancorfield 2020-09-07T04:01:49.419500Z

Ah, interesting. Thanks!

2020-09-07T04:02:13.419700Z

But I am renting (and just moved, so the pain of that is fresh) so I made some big beefy C(squared though) shaped legs, where the lower support is back against the wall, so I have a huge amount of unbroken under desk space for storage

chucklehead 2020-09-07T04:04:24.419900Z

that's interesting on the price, that definitely wasn't the case when I bought. I think the i7/16/256 laptop was around $200 more than the 16/256 X at that time.

chucklehead 2020-09-07T04:24:45.420100Z

yeah, I've considered doing something similar wherever my next home office happens to be. I don't actually have enough contiguous wall space for a desktop here because both interior 'walls' are faux archways into other rooms and the exterior walls have lots of windows (not complaining). I thought about wall mounting the monitor arm with a pull-out keyboard/mouse tray but I do like having some actual desktop space to make a mess on also.

orestis 2020-09-07T04:51:04.423300Z

I recently switched my thinking from language to runtime. Therefore I’d pick either a JVM or an Erlang-based language. Definitely not Python or Ruby or Node. Haskell/Ocaml might suffer from ecosystem issues (eg can you find a production ready database driver?). I’m clueless about .NET but I think it’s also a solid foundation.

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seancorfield 2020-09-07T04:54:50.423500Z

The SL3 in blue is $1,299 right now in that configuration (down from $1,599). The Pro 7 and Pro X are both $1,499 right now (without a Type Cover which is $90 in the basic form or $160 in the luxury versions!). If they'd been doing a similar deal on the Pro 7, I'd have probably gone with that because I really value the portability of that format. But $1,300 is basically my "ding" price for a "cheap, portable, work-ready machine".

seancorfield 2020-09-07T04:56:42.423800Z

I've been on the JVM since 1997. I've learned quite a few languages that don't run on the JVM, but the only things I'm ever going to be able to introduce where I've worked are languages that do run on the JVM (natively, not some second-class port like JRuby).

seancorfield 2020-09-07T04:57:01.424Z

(I was so hopeful for both Frege and Eta...)

chucklehead 2020-09-07T05:05:10.424200Z

that's a great deal, mine was $1400 altogether with the upgraded cover/pen. I was specifically looking at either the pro 7 or X because I was anticipating using it on campus for OneNote, etc, (which turned out to be wishful thinking).

mpenet 2020-09-07T05:26:04.424400Z

The manual ikea standing desks are not bad and cheap. The base is a tank, and the same base is used for both models size (it extends) , so you can replace the top easily if you want and make it larger.

gibb 2020-09-07T06:38:45.424900Z

Golang works well enough but I don't find it enjoayble to write. I write some Go at work and the best part is how easy it's to get things into production and move on.

gibb 2020-09-07T06:41:57.425100Z

Also Go code is very maintainable after the fact, and by other people. The lack of abstractions makes it mostly easy to read and understand (and change).

cjsauer 2020-09-07T16:59:08.429800Z

Best IRC clients for Mac?

mpenet 2020-09-08T07:58:42.437500Z

emacs 🙂

mpenet 2020-09-08T07:58:53.437700Z

honestly, ERC is quite good

mpenet 2020-09-08T07:59:51.437900Z

Then I guess it depends if you are using it or not already maybe. Some people use it just for magit, I guess ERC would be a valid use case too.

cjsauer 2020-09-08T13:47:45.046900Z

I hadn’t even considered Emacs! Of course it has an IRC client :) I will give this a try, thanks.

lread 2020-09-08T16:23:01.083900Z

Ah… I too think I would have chosen the Emacs route had I been an Emacs user at the time.

shem 2020-09-07T18:23:47.432500Z

@cjsauer ssh to a server and connect to an irssi running under tmux?

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seancorfield 2020-09-07T19:10:15.434100Z

@cjsauer I used Colloquy for years and really liked that (but I no longer use IRC at all).

lread 2020-09-07T19:23:22.434300Z

I was never an IRCer but was forced into it for one project. I used https://www.codeux.com/textual/ and found it worked well.

cjsauer 2020-09-07T19:32:44.434600Z

Thanks. I’ve been playing around with Haskell and it seems like the majority of peeps hang around in the IRC channel. I haven’t used IRC since uni and I was on Linux then…

seancorfield 2020-09-07T19:40:37.434800Z

Yeah, there's still a devoted core of Clojurians on #clojure on freenode

cjsauer 2020-09-07T19:47:33.435Z

Cool, just joined. I see a handful of familiar names.