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mpenet 2020-09-22T03:44:25.059100Z

Matrix is pretty good too. Bridging slack/irc is also available. It's also used by some large groups (govs, mozilla, etc), via riot/element.io

borkdude 2020-09-22T10:27:52.067900Z

Is there anyone here running macOS < 10.11 (El Capitan)? Just curious

orestis 2020-09-22T11:08:05.068500Z

That would be seriously old @borkdude — I got away by staying on Sierra/High Sierra for a few years, was too busy to upgrade 🙂

borkdude 2020-09-22T11:08:44.069Z

OK. I set 10.11 as the minimum version for babashka. 10.10 didn't work. I guess that's ok then.

borkdude 2020-09-22T11:11:43.069400Z

Oh, I guess I could even make it 10.13 as 10.12 is already EOL

Mno 2020-09-22T11:36:41.070200Z

I just checked an my “routing” computer is at 10.11.5

Mno 2020-09-22T11:38:13.072Z

but I don’t think anyone would use an un-updated 2009 macbook pro as a development thing (docker doesn’t run easily on that either)

telekid 2020-09-22T12:54:37.073300Z

I just accidentally :w'd in the #announcements channel, and it was deleted in less than two seconds 😆 was that automation or an admin??? impressive

seancorfield 2020-09-22T17:13:05.074900Z

@borkdude I'm still on 10.12 FYI. I'm tired of Apple breaking my dev env every time I upgrade, so I never moved on from 10.12 😐

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:17:30.075200Z

that's EOL now :)

seancorfield 2020-09-22T17:20:48.076300Z

I know. brew squawks at me every time I install something. But macOS upgrades have always been horribly painful for me with Apple just deciding to randomly break stuff (or even delete user files in the past!).

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borkdude 2020-09-22T17:21:40.076600Z

Last couple of upgrades everything pretty much just worked for me

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:21:54.077Z

Though I had the brew problem a couple of years ago

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:22:58.077900Z

@seancorfield I'm very curious though, could I get you to try a bb binary that's compiled with targeting minimal 10.13 at your 10.12 system just to see if it crashes?

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:25:24.078500Z

(ex: $ bb '(+ 1 2 3)')

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:26:15.079100Z

Xcode 12 still support back to 10.11 so I could lower the number if there's actually people using bb on these older systems

seancorfield 2020-09-22T17:37:06.079300Z

Downloading...

seancorfield 2020-09-22T17:37:55.079700Z

It runs without complaint on 10.12.

seancorfield 2020-09-22T17:38:22.080200Z

(I don't use bb so I would only be affected if clj-kondo stopped running on 10.12)

borkdude 2020-09-22T17:38:38.080500Z

yeah for clj-kondo it's the same thing. thanks for testing!