Clojurians Log v2

Hi all! I’m investigating tools for end-to-end testing of webapp and mobile app (CLJS/ReactNative), through the UI. Something that a tester could use to build up a suite of automated tests. The tester is fine with doing some programming, but is not a professional software developer. And we would want to run it in CI (CircleCI). It’s been ages since I’ve done anything like this (Selenium e.g.). Do you have any recommendations or “things-to-stay-away-from”? Thanks!!

@stefan.van.den.oord For programmers I would recommend etaoin. But we handed off our UI tests to another team which is using Saucelabs, which looks nice to me. You can even replay movies from the tests.

Thanks Michiel! Do you know if etaoin will also work for ReactNative apps / have experience with that? RE SauceLabs: that looks nice, but the cost is too high for us at this point I’m afraid.

etaoin renders your app in a web browser. I'm not sure if that works for ReactNative, I'm not familiar with that tech. Maybe ask in #cljsrn

I noticed there is a #etaoin as well, let’s see if there’s anyone there 🙂

Hi all! I was digging into tagged literals these days and I was thinking about use cases.. (I made this gist to summarize the findings https://gist.github.com/wandersoncferreira/06bdefe99b9db12fcf7ce269b2f42a63) would love to hear from you guys some good use-cases for custom tagged literals...

I found https://github.com/dgrnbrg/spyscope after watching the Steve Minner talk on data readers .. very clever. I was looking for more down to earth use cases 🙂

FYI: https://status.slack.com/2020-10/e8c094cc99aabf64

the cloud never goes down :troll:

I just shared this with someone in re the slow adoption of cool languages: https://web.archive.org/web/20121130091936/http://wiki.alu.org:80/The%20Road%20to%20Lisp%20Survey I should think a similar survey for Clojure would be a lot different in re road origins, tho much the same as to where they end.

we have asked variants of this (particularly the "prior language" question) on the clojure survey for a long time. from a language perspective I think there are some clear-cut buckets: • Java - want to live in the JVM ecosystem, but lose the ceremony and concurrency issues from Java • Ruby/Python - want dynlang but better perf • JavaScript - half same as Java s/JVM/JS/, half dynlang but more sane • C++ - want I think concurrency but don't want to deal with Java (this is a persistent niche) • Lisp/Scheme - rarely takes with Lispers, sometimes does for Schemers coming from academia -> industry • everything else - variety of reasons

we also see waves that seem related to different personalities finding / talking about Clojure - Rich Hickey, Paul Graham, David Nolen, Robert Martin, etc

There is also cypress, which has a nice interface that shows step-by-step what it did and why that failed

I don’t know how well that integrates in a cljs project tho