Clojurians Log v2

Is "procedural" a fitting antonym when talking about "functional programming" ?

I guess my question is, what's the opposite of "functional?"

the real functional programming is the friends we've made along the way

😂

that does not help me in my essay but i appreciate the thought immensely

google says the opposite of functional is impractical...

imperative?

von Neumann style

hm, imperative is what I usually talk about

but you can be imperative in a functional language

https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/359576.359579

another antonym is object oriented programming

I wouldn't say it has an "opposite", but there are many alternatives. examples: • OO • procedural • logic programming

and you can mix and match to a degree

where does Assembly fit into that trichotomy?

When I tried to explain functional programming to a colleague lecturer once (traditionally the education was still big on OO) his reply was: but this is back to procedural programming. I gave up.

to quote the abstract of the linked paper "their primitive word-at-a-time style of programming inherited from their common ancestor—the von Neumann computer, their close coupling of semantics to state transitions"

which is basically describing assembly

Hmm... I want to explain that transforming collections is better than setting up a fickle environment and pulling levers...

it's not a trichotomy, it's a way of categorizing approaches that lie in a multi-dimensional space. approaches may overlap and there may be approaches that don't have common categorical names

von-Neumann it is

That's very interesting. I agree with you @smith.adriane in that there are several slopes within which most language styles will live/overlap... I mean, pretty much all the code has those 3 in it to some degree...

But a register / drawer where you put stuff and manipulate it's drawer sequentially is different than transforming collections without caring where / what / which / is-there-a / drawer

So yeah, that distinction is a little trickier to peg succinctly

the phrase rich uses in a number of talks to cover oop and procedural is "place oriented programming"

but those descriptors are sort of only good for "small" programs. programs on a single thread, maybe on a single machine. as the lambda calculus is a logic of names, process calculi are logics of places

Dig it.