Clojurians Log v2

how does yada know about om.transit in the todomvc example project? doesn't it use tempids? https://github.com/madvas/todomvc-omnext-datomic-datascript/blob/master/src/clj/todomvc/website.clj#L33

i think the corresponding yada transit encoder is here https://github.com/juxt/yada/blob/432d1b25f83a4af5d94d1108f37ee253a2a74bce/ext/transit/src/yada/transit.clj#L12

I’m happy to share the first public release of peon, a library for idiomatic dispatch of Om Next transactions from stateless components. https://github.com/luchiniatwork/peon

Feedback welcomed!

what's the documentation situation with om.next? is it a good time to start writing tutorials and such? are things likely to change a lot still?

it doesn't seem like much has changed at all from the existing tutorials, some of which are very old

@cjhowe it's being pretty stable for a long time, on latest months I only saw a couple of bug fixes

@cjhowe i would highly appreciate some good tutorials :D especially about how to use om.next without datomic but with some sql database or similar. I couldnt find many resources about it :/

i'm writing an om.next app with sql right now, and i also agree with that sentiment

@alpox @cjhowe I've wrote a tutorial covering the parser implementation (so you can wrap your sql database or anything else), you might find useful: https://medium.com/@wilkerlucio/implementing-custom-om-next-parsers-f20ca6db1664

I know id better ask that over in the datomic channel, but i thought i give it a go since we're on it: Does anyone use datomic in a commercial product and is it not too expensive for that? It seems to me like a high price to pay

@wilkerlucio thanks a bunch :) ill save this properly in my information chain 👍

@alpox no problem 🙂 and about datomic, that really depends, it's worth remember that you can get a pro license free for 1 year, and after that you can keep using it, you just lose the updates. I think it's reasonable that after that point your project might be making enough money to pay for it, right now if I remember correctly it's about $5000/year

I personally would love to see some datomic as a service thing, that you could use for free until you have enough traffic, and then you start paying, this missing link makes entrance by small developers hard IMO

@wilkerlucio thanks for the input :) i believe though, that this would be too much of a risk for me

can save a lot of money if you use aws dynamodb, but it's still very expensive for the transactor

@wilkerlucio i agree. It would be much better for me if it was accessible as service with respect to traffic. That would highly reduce the risk for me and make it better available

[Q] How do I debug when it seems like my Om component’s data is unchanging? like, I manage to get an update! call to work, but the next update! call is somehow modifying the same state that the previous one did

(and I’m having trouble googling techniques for this area)