Clojurians Log v2

I finally gave in and installed Elixir today and went through the tutorial... I just can't help finding the syntax really ugly 😞

(but then I don't much like Ruby to start with and this seems to have a lot of Erlang-isms poking through, making it even clunkier)

I can’t get past the syntax either. It is too Ruby-ish for my taste. And the community seems to be mostly ruby devs also.

What about Clojure on Erlang/OTP - feasible?

Don't know what I would be getting out of it, since I don't know that ecosystem, but it sounds interesting 😛

There is a lisp that runs on the beam, but it isn’t clojure-ish

do you mean LFE?

http://lfe.io/

yeah

I can’t do Lisp without some sort of clojure syntax anymore. Clojure has spoiled me.

LFE on Erjang... it's a thing https://github.com/lfex/jlfe

LFE apparently takes more inspiration from common lisp

I was surprised when I looked at LFE how much the syntax leapt out and made me go "ugh!" — Clojure has definitely spoiled me there 😸

yeah, I had the same reaction

it's funny because many lispers say the same about Clojure's syntax

I hadn’t used to think (general) Lisp syntax was weird… I was very comfortable with it (a long time ago). I think I’d been away from it long enough — and spent decades in non-Lisp land — that when I came to Clojure, I didn’t think it was "odd" compared to Lisp, and now I’m so used to Clojure syntax that Lisp looks "odd" instead. Funny what you get used to.

yeah, I can parse clojure code fairly easily, but not Lisp code. I have to concentrate more. For example, in clojure, I can tell fairly fast what the arguments are, and what the binding params are. In Lisp, that slows me down.