spirituality-ethics

zcaudate 2016-06-16T04:17:51.000007Z

@borkdude: meditation = spiritual hammock time

zcaudate 2016-06-16T04:19:38.000008Z

speaking of visualisation…

zcaudate 2016-06-16T04:19:39.000009Z

http://fundersandfounders.com/how-elon-musk-started/

zcaudate 2016-06-16T04:20:23.000011Z

I’m increasingly in awe of this guy

zcaudate 2016-06-16T04:20:43.000012Z

he knows what he wants

borkdude 2016-06-16T07:45:09.000013Z

Rich Hickey mentioned Musk in one of his spec examples, so he must be really great 😉

tjg 2016-06-16T07:50:55.000014Z

Hey @zcaudate: there's ideas people have come up with and pursue, I just need some time to collect brief descriptions into a gist... 🙂

tjg 2016-06-16T07:53:16.000015Z

(Sorry for the delay; just had to think about it for a bit and recently had deadlines when I wanted to reply.)

zcaudate 2016-06-16T07:57:21.000016Z

@tjg: please do! I’d love to see it.

zcaudate 2016-06-16T07:57:39.000017Z

I think that money is an unavoidable concept

zcaudate 2016-06-16T07:57:57.000018Z

that is extremely useful

zcaudate 2016-06-16T07:58:48.000019Z

but can abused through greed

zcaudate 2016-06-16T08:01:01.000020Z

I like the whole concept of needs and desires in terms of defining goals. Someone once said to me… generosity is giving more than you have… whilst vanity is taking less than you need.

tjg 2016-06-16T08:34:23.000021Z

Good point with goals! Hopefully I don't misinterpret your point. When supporting someone with their problems, it seems helpful to help identify & achieve goals they want to accomplish. (With active listening & their enthusiastic consent of course.) Seems a lot harder to support someone with real action, without discovering their goals.

tjg 2016-06-16T08:35:46.000022Z

Yeah, an advanced future economy would probably have some notion of "credits" somewhere in it. At least to control things like pollution.

tjg 2016-06-16T08:35:47.000023Z

(Though maybe such credits would disappear when used, unlike our current idea of "money," which is transferrable. For example, in the Participatory Economics vision, you can imagine getting credits for your "effort & sacrifice, tempered by need.")