spirituality-ethics

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:38:49.000053Z

TIL i'm way out of my depth in here 🙂

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:42:57.000054Z

@robert-stuttaford: welcome to share something from your depth 😉

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:43:26.000055Z

btw I'm currently having a caffeine withdrawal, so not very spiritual...

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:49:01.000057Z

why the caffeine reduction? sending you strength 🙂

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:49:50.000058Z

@robert-stuttaford: I do this to myself every so often it seems.

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:50:47.000059Z

@robert-stuttaford: I just want to be able to function normally without coffee. This guy inspired me to try it again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kXq8na6Q9w

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:50:48.000060Z

caffeine holiday? me too

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:51:10.000062Z

how much do you usually drink?

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:51:21.000063Z

@robert-stuttaford: 2 cups + 3 cups of black tea

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:51:36.000064Z

yeah. that's quite a lot for a day

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:52:05.000065Z

you're definitely well into adenosine resistance

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:52:18.000066Z

I'm now down to 1 cup + 3 cups of green tea

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:52:55.000067Z

last time I tried to quit completely, but there's always this social aspect to it

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:53:08.000068Z

so now I'm trying to limit to 1 cup, so I don't have to say goodbye to coffee definitely

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:53:36.000069Z

best, i think, is if you can make it a random cup, rather than a ritualised one

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:53:50.000070Z

@robert-stuttaford: I'm very much a habit person

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:53:54.000071Z

so that your body gets used to coping with out it

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:54:11.000072Z

@robert-stuttaford: yes, I want to be able to go without some days

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:54:16.000073Z

so let's say it's optional

borkdude 2016-06-21T12:54:55.000074Z

the benefit of cutting down is that the one cup I do have feels so amazing 😛

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:56:48.000075Z

yes, i know what you mean

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:57:03.000076Z

i'm on one GOOD cup of coffee a day, and then normal tea 1-2 times randomly after that

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T12:57:15.000077Z

and that first cup is very much a ritual

borkdude 2016-06-21T13:08:54.000078Z

@robert-stuttaford: btw I'll have some free time in the coming two months and I was planning to read up on that 'fixed' vs 'growth' mindset you talked about on Twitter

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:09:58.000079Z

http://mindsetonline.com/ 🙂

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:10:54.000081Z

it's really quite simple, but fundamental. in http://www.insidequest.com/episode/tom-bilyeu/, Tom explains really nicely why this is so

borkdude 2016-06-21T13:11:06.000083Z

@robert-stuttaford: I love simple but fundamental stuff

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:11:25.000084Z

me too

borkdude 2016-06-21T13:12:00.000085Z

that's why I'm into zen meditation now also. it's very basic, yet profound

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:12:51.000086Z

it's fascinating how your world changes when you take a small mental step back from the senses and realise that there's so much happening in your head, beneath notice

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robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:13:03.000087Z

and you start to notice it, and see just how much it drives you

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:14:16.000088Z

and then, with practice, you get to start deciding, or, at least, start to reprogram that stuff

borkdude 2016-06-21T13:14:32.000089Z

@robert-stuttaford: it's hard but worth it

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T13:15:08.000090Z

mega hard. but totally worth it. and, all that practice is directly applicable to everything else in your life!

borkdude 2016-06-21T13:15:39.000091Z

yes, fundamental

tjg 2016-06-21T13:57:00.000092Z

I'm pretty sure I wrote that very badly and unclearly. 🙂

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:21:09.000093Z

@tjg: I like Battlestar Galactica… it follows a very vedic point of view where the world is destroyed and rebuilt in cycles

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:21:54.000094Z

the opening theme song is the gayatri mantra

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:22:41.000095Z

which most indians (and western hippies) know by heart

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:24:09.000096Z

the matrix was another deeply influenced by indian philosophy as was cloud atlas

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:25:41.000097Z

lana was a philosophy major

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:28:10.000098Z

anyways… I would like to think that the world is moving towards this star trek utopia but everyone I talk to loves mad max

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:28:31.000099Z

… so I don’t know really

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:29:34.000100Z

maybe it’s going to be a gasp two tier society with the haves and have nots

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:30:19.000101Z

kinda like the whole vision created by metropolis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(1927_film)

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:31:06.000102Z

all I can say is that as clojurists… we’ll be fine 😃

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:32:13.000103Z

because the world is heading towards a future where human attention is becoming the most valuable commodity on the planet

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:32:49.000104Z

and so as programmers, we are in a very privileged position to be part of that future

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:33:06.000105Z

as its creators

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:34:11.000106Z

@robert-stuttaford: have you tried apple juice with lemon?

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:34:43.000107Z

if you like a hot drink… lemon, honey and ginger is also nice.

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:36:57.000109Z

some people are put off by the sugar so you can put less of the apple/honey

zcaudate 2016-06-21T16:37:52.000110Z

If I feel like I’m in a meeting and I’m pinching myself to stay awake because of boredom, this works better than coffee

robert-stuttaford 2016-06-21T17:53:10.000111Z

i haven't, but i will, thank you 🙂