spirituality-ethics

borkdude 2016-08-07T13:58:50.000052Z

Is anyone here doing the Miracle Morning? I wonder what it will do, getting up so early and less sleep

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:18:16.000053Z

seems like fun. i started today 🙂

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:19:03.000054Z

@robert-stuttaford: are you also reading the book?

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:19:05.000055Z

i love that it's just an hour, and that it packs reading, writing, meditation and exercise in. i've never done affirmations or visualisations before, so no idea how that'll work out, but the rest i've done plenty of, and they're great

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:19:11.000056Z

i finished reading the book yesterday

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:19:15.000057Z

it's short

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:19:25.000058Z

@robert-stuttaford: you are fast! did you find an accountability partner?

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:19:48.000059Z

just over 100 pages

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:19:54.000060Z

not yet!

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:20:17.000061Z

@robert-stuttaford: we could become each others if you want

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:20:50.000062Z

i skipped those pieces. i'll read and see what it involves 🙂

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:21:16.000063Z

lol ok. well, I'm a little bit scared... don't want to become more tired than I already am right now... still working on the caffeine

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:21:53.000064Z

one of my problems is that I never fall asleep before midnight, so I'd get up at 5 AM that would be a short night for me

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:22:01.000065Z

making a spreadsheet with columns for dates and rows for habits is also a very simple way to track things

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:22:17.000066Z

why don't you fall asleep? you don't want to? or you want to, but can not?

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:22:30.000067Z

@robert-stuttaford: yeah, well actually I'm very good at building habits. 5 years on a healthy diet, exercising without skipping etc

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:22:44.000068Z

want to but can not

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:22:47.000069Z

just too awake

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:22:55.000070Z

even when I'm tired

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:23:14.000071Z

have you tried all the tricks? no light, no devices, eating appropriately, slightly cool room, etc etc

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:24:15.000072Z

yes, I've tried it all. maybe light sleep deprivation would work, but then I would have to be very disciplined to get out

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:24:26.000073Z

arianna huffington just wrote a book about it http://www.fastcompany.com/3060801/your-most-productive-self/heres-arianna-huffingtons-recipe-for-a-great-night-of-sleep

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:25:19.000075Z

@robert-stuttaford: great, I'm going to read the article.

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:25:56.000076Z

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/unbeatable-mind-podcast-mark/id955637330 episode 13 with Kirk Parseley is very good too

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:26:21.000078Z

i don't struggle to fall asleep at all, but my wife does. hence my knowledge

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:26:30.000079Z

i don't need a reason, i just need a place 🙂

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:26:54.000080Z

exhausting your body and your brain with exercise helps too

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:27:19.000081Z

the one thing about the podcast is being careful of using e.g. melatonin, because if you take it regularly, your body stops producing it naturally

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:28:02.000082Z

podcast?

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:28:08.000083Z

ah sorry

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:28:11.000084Z

🙂

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:28:12.000085Z

I was still reading the article

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:28:44.000086Z

I've taken melatonin for years, but I've gradually weaned off. Stopped it a few weeks ago

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:29:40.000087Z

the thing Hal says in the book is not to wake up so early that you're not functional. the main thing is to have this plan and intention for your first waking hour

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:29:54.000089Z

I have a morning routine for a year now

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:29:59.000090Z

meditation

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:30:02.000091Z

most people already fill that hour with unavoidables, and so he says wake up earlier

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:30:05.000092Z

I've recently added exercise

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:30:15.000093Z

you're freelance now, right, so it's really all up to you

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:31:07.000094Z

true. I think I'll experiment with getting up earlier, just slightly and see what effect it has on sleeping in

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:32:03.000095Z

My wife needs 9 hours of sleep and she has no problems getting to sleep

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:32:06.000096Z

if you exercise and meditate in the morning already, then you're basically already set

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:32:10.000097Z

yeah

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:32:12.000098Z

because those likely use an hour already

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:32:13.000099Z

just earlier

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:32:19.000100Z

just a bit of reorg

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:32:37.000101Z

But great to hear you're going to try it @robert-stuttaford !

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:33:07.000102Z

kinda been ready for something like this for a while 🙂

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:33:27.000103Z

I've submitted the youtube talk to HN: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0uRp7BoPVY Would love to have a subcommunity of programmers that do this

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:34:48.000105Z

sorry, this is the link to HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12242110

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:36:19.000106Z

yeah. i reckon anyone can benefit

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:36:47.000107Z

as devs, we're usually detail focused and quite absorbed by what we do, so introducing some intentional focus on other areas is good

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:38:23.000108Z

how far through the book are you? i'd be happy to partner up

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:38:38.000109Z

worst thing that can happen is that we learn something 😄

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:39:16.000110Z

35% now, I think I'll finish it within a few days at least

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:39:37.000111Z

ok, I'll set the alarm clock at 7:00 tomorrow

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T14:40:13.000112Z

hey we're in the same timezone

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:41:51.000113Z

cool

borkdude 2016-08-07T14:46:58.000114Z

this is quite interesting: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Buddhist-monks-sleep-so-little

borkdude 2016-08-07T15:38:00.000115Z

finished listening to the podcast, good information. probably not a good idea to sleep deprive myself below 7 hours 😉

robert-stuttaford 2016-08-07T16:12:07.000116Z

-grin-