Clojurians Log v2

@stephenway Are you using PostCss for everything or combining it with om-css from untangled repo ? Really like the idea of co-located css.

Is there a easy/recommended way in untangled to do something like. Fire up the data fetch only after 1sec has passed since the last filter was applied.

In js in was trivial with redux-observable middleware (rxjs).

@claudiu Right now it’s only using PostCSS to compile, and we have looked at using om-css, but currently do not have the bandwidth to convert it to such a state. I think it would be awesome to have colocated styles though!

@stephenway is anybody using om-css in production or is it still experimental ?

We are using: https://github.com/ladderlife/om-css in production

That is the other om-css

@mitchelkuijpers thank you, missed that one. Will check it out 🙂

But we are looking into wrapping https://styled-components.com/

Maybe something that you can use garden instead of the strings

But we are waiting for the js-modules to get a little bit more mature

that would be a interesting approach 🙂

@claudiu Mutations are meant to be abstract...so the filters should be calling some set-filter kind of mutation, and the debouncing should be done in the mutation implementation (for fetch). In terms of implementing that: For example: you could have an atom that is "private" to that set of filter mutations that holds onto a js timer that you reset at each mutation...if it expires, it could then run a load against the reconciler or component (which you can get from the component passed to the mutation in env).

I'd typically recommend the reconciler or the (app-root reconciler) be the thing used with load (in that kind of scenario), since the component that triggered the mutation could get un-mounted due to user navigation in the UI before the timeout.

The ladderlife om-css requires you use a custom defui (which leads to better ability to export the CSS for post-processing and use as a file). The untangled version approach is less invasive, but expects that you'll have the CSS embed into the DOM without using a file.

My thought was that having cljs to manipulate the CSS was sufficient, but there are some powerful pre-written CSS tools out there. pros/cons 😄

@tony.kay ok 🙂 I could not find anything regarding om.next middleware. I had a lot of fun with https://redux-observable.js.org/ and was curious if I could use a similar in om.next/untangled.

too hard of a question, to answer well.

not that middleware is hard

nor would it be hard to do whatever you'd like in theory

the problem is you need to understand the model before you start trying to mix and match tech

when you ask a direct question like debouncing filter updates, that I answer clearly...when you ask about integrating redux...I'm no expert on that topic, nor do I plan to research it for you 😉

agh 😄 not really about integrating redux. Switching from js/redux to clojure & untangled. Was just curious if there was a similar pattern.

Will probably figure it out as I keep working on my project with untangled.

Yes, I think there are a lot of similarities. I

think you'll find that Untangled/Om Next has a similar simple nature to Redux...from what I know aabout it at least

You know about the video playlist on Youtube? Many ppl have found those very useful

See the Untangled website docs section

yes, thank you so much for the video series 🙂 a few of them I have watched more than once.

great!

For anyone interested: I'll be manning the Navis booth at Clj West next week. Come chat about Untangled and Om Next.